Thanks, David.  +1 (binding).

cheers,
Colin

On Wed, May 27, 2020, at 18:21, David Arthur wrote:
> Colin, thanks for the feedback. Good points. I've updated the KIP with your
> suggestions.
> 
> -David
> 
> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 4:05 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hi David,
> >
> > Thanks for the KIP!
> >
> > The KIP refers to "the KIP-500 bridge release (version 2.6.0 as of the
> > time of this proposal)".  This is out of date-- the bridge release will be
> > one of the 3.x releases.  We should either update this to 3.0, or perhaps
> > just take out the reference to a specific version, since it's not necessary
> > to understand the rest of the KIP.
> >
> > > ... and potentially could replace the existing controlled shutdown RPC.
> > Since this RPC
> > > is somewhat generic, it could also be used to mark a replicas a "online"
> > following some
> > > kind of log dir recovery procedure (out of scope for this proposal).
> >
> > I think it would be good to move this part into the "Future Work" section.
> >
> > > The Reason field is an optional textual description of why the event is
> > being sent
> >
> > Since we implemented optional fields in KIP-482, describing this field as
> > "optional" might be confusing.  Probably better to avoid describing it that
> > way, unless it's a tagged field.
> >
> > > - If no Topic is given, it is implied that all topics on this broker are
> > being indicated
> > > - If a Topic and no partitions are given, it is implied that all
> > partitions of this topic are being indicated
> >
> > I would prefer to leave out these "shortcuts" since they seem likely to
> > lead to confusion and bugs.
> >
> > For example, suppose that  the controller has just created a new partition
> > for topic "foo" and put it on broker 3.  But then, before broker 3 gets the
> > LeaderAndIsrRequest from the controller, broker 3 get a bad log directory.
> > So it sends an AlterReplicaStateRequest to the controller specifying topic
> > foo and leaving out the partition list (using the first "shortcut".)  The
> > new partition will get marked as offline even though it hasn't even been
> > created, much less assigned to the bad log directory.
> >
> > Since log directory failures are rare, spelling out the full set of
> > affected partitions when one happens doesn't seem like that much of a
> > burden.  This is also consistent with what we currently do.  In fact, it's
> > much more efficient than what we currently do, since with KIP-589, we won't
> > have to enumerate partitions that aren't on the failed log directory.
> >
> > In the future work section: If we eventually want to replace
> > ControlledShutdownRequest with this RPC, we'll need some additional
> > functionality.  Specifically, we'll need the ability to tell the controller
> > to stop putting new partitions on the broker that sent the request.  That
> > could be done with a separate request or possibly additional flags on this
> > request.  In any case, we don't have to solve that problem now.
> >
> > Thanks again for the KIP... great to see this moving forward.
> >
> > regards,
> > Colin
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 20, 2020, at 12:22, David Arthur wrote:
> > > Hello, all. I'd like to start the vote for KIP-589 which proposes to add
> > a
> > > new AlterReplicaState RPC.
> > >
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-589+Add+API+to+update+Replica+state+in+Controller
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > David
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> -David
>

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