Hi Mickael,

Thanks for your interest in this. The main motivation to NOT make topic
creation fail when this mismatch happens is because at the moment it is
possible to produce/consume on topics if acks is not set to all. I'm not
sure we want to disable this behavior (as we would by failing at topic
creation). That's why I decided to go for a softer approach, which at least
gives some more clarity to the users and avoids other issues mentioned in
the KIP.

Let's see what others think!

On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 17:16, Mickael Maison <mickael.mai...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Paolo,
>
> Thanks for looking at this issue. This can indeed be a source of confusion.
>
> I'm wondering if we should prevent the creation of topics with
> min.insync.replicas > replication.factor?
> You listed that as a rejected alternative because it requires more
> changes. However, I can't think of any scenarios where a user would
> want to create such a topic. I'm guessing it's probably always by
> mistake.
>
> Let's see what other people think but I think it's worth checking what
> needs to be done if we wanted to prevent topics with bogus configs
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 3:28 PM Paolo Moriello
> <paolomoriell...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Following this Jira ticket (
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-4680),
> > I've created a proposal (
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-579%3A+new+exception+on+min.insync.replicas+%3E+replication.factor
> )
> > to add a new exception/error to be used on min.insync.replicas >
> > replication.factor.
> >
> > The proposal aims to introduce a new exception specific for the
> > configuration mismatch above to be used when producers requires acks =
> all.
> > At the moment we are using NotEnoughReplicaException, which is a
> retriable
> > exception and is used to fail on insync replicas < min isr. Plan is to
> have
> > a new, non-retriable exception, to separate the two cases.
> >
> > I've also submitted a PR for the change mentioned above:
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/8225
> >
> > Please have a look and let me know what you think.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Paolo
>

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