Hi Colin.  Two things come to mind with respect to ZooKeeper camelCase
style vs Kafka-style config names for ZooKeeper.  First, I think it
would be desirable for the client configs and broker configs to be
interoperable.  For example, it feels like it would be convenient to
be able to pass the broker's config file to the ZK Security Migrator
tool.  I think whatever we use (ZooKeeper camelCase style or Kafka
style), I think we should use the same for both.

The second thing to think about is the fact that ZooKeeper
configuration inherently uses Java system properties as a first pass.
So while we might switch to Kafka-style configs in the config file
(e.g. zookeeper.ssl.trust.store.location), the
org.apache.zookeeper.client.ZKClientConfig class (which is how TLS
configs are set) is going to look for the camelCase
zookeeper.ssl.trustStore.location system property and use any value
there.  I think this could be very confusing for people.  Granted, we
are doing this so that people don't have to use system properties, but
there is no way to turn off the use of system properties, so I think
there would be pretty substantial potential for confusion.

One idea is to migrate the system properties -- i.e. look to see if
zookeeper.ssl.trustStore.location is set and if it is clear out the
value there and move it under the zookeeper.ssl.trust.store.location
system property.  (I said it was an idea -- not necessarily a good one
:-)

Ron

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 3:54 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020, at 10:53, Ron Dagostino wrote:
> > Thanks Colin and Rajini.
> >
> > I've updated the KIP to say that KIP-421 functionality is available to
> > encrypt sensitive configs like the ZK key store and trust store
> > passwords.  (I've also made it clear that the configs are not
> > dynamically reconfigurable since dynamic values are stored in ZK and
> > the data is needed to get to ZK in the first place).  Colin, let me
> > know if you think anything else needs to be said/done about it -- I
> > wasn't sure if your comment above implies that there are additional
> > direct actions that we need to take aside from this.
> >
> > I agree that making the brokers' ZooKeeper clients dynamic with
> > respect to key and trust stores (e.g. via
> > zookeeper.ssl.context.supplier.class) may increase the risk that this
> > KIP may not land in time for 2.5.
> >
> > Regarding the config names for ZK being different than the ZooKeeper
> > configs (e.g. camel-case keyStore/trustStore instead of
> > keystore/truststore, ciphersuites instead of cipher.suites,
> > enabledProtocols instead of enabled.protocols), I agree it is an
> > issue.  I tried to mitigate it by putting warning text in the config
> > docs for these.  Regarding configuration inheritance, I think what you
> > are saying is that for any configs where the broker has a clear
> > semantic equivalent, the broker could fall back to the broker value if
> > the ZK value is not given.  The potential list is:
> >
> > zookeeper.ssl.keyStore.location => ssl.keystore.location
> > zookeeper.ssl.keyStore.password => ssl.keystore.password
> > zookeeper.ssl.keyStore.type => ssl.keystore.type
> > zookeeper.ssl.trustStore.location => ssl.truststore.location
> > zookeeper.ssl.trustStore.password => ssl.truststore.password
> > zookeeper.ssl.trustStore.type => ssl.truststore.type
> > zookeeper.ssl.ciphersuites => ssl.cipher.suites
> >
> > Note that there are two configs that look the same based on their key
> > names but whose allowable values differ:
> >
> > zookeeper.ssl.protocol(Default: TLSv1.2) => ssl.protocol(Default: TLS)
> > zookeeper.ssl.enabledProtocols(Default: value of protocol property) =
> > ssl.enabled.protocols(Default: TLSv1.2,TLSv1.1,TLSv1)
> >
> > Not sure what the right answer is, but hopefully this detail will help
> > get us there.
> >
> > Ron
>
> I think, on balance, I agree with Rajini that it would be nice to make the 
> configs look more like Kafka configs.  We don't have camel-case in 
> configuration keys, so we should avoid it here.
>
> best,
> Colin
>
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 12:26 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020, at 11:49, Rajini Sivaram wrote:
> > > > Hi Ron,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the detailed explanation, sounds good to me.
> > > >
> > > > A few more questions:
> > > >
> > > > 1) At the moment, all sensitive broker configs including
> > > > keystore/truststore passwords can be stored encrypted in ZooKeeper 
> > > > prior to
> > > > starting up brokers. We are now adding SSL keystore/truststore passwords
> > > > for ZooKeeper client that cannot be stored in ZooKeeper since you need
> > > > these to connect to ZK. We should perhaps document that these configs 
> > > > can
> > > > be encrypted using KIP-421.
> > >
> > > That's a good point.  Previously, we didn't have ZK on-the-wire security 
> > > support.  However, now that we do, sending sensitive keystore and 
> > > truststore passwords to ZK in cleartext should be deprecated in favor of 
> > > using KIP-421.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 2) We can dynamically update keystores and trust stores used by brokers
> > > > without restarting the broker. Can we support this easily for ZK clients
> > > > created by the broker, for example by adding our own
> > > > `zookeeper.ssl.context.supplier.class`?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hmm.  That might be better to consider in a follow-up, since the deadline 
> > > for 2.5 KIPs is coming up?
> > >
> > > best,
> > > Colin
> > >
> > > > 3) Looks like we are using config names that directly map to ZK configs.
> > > > Have we considered using equivalent Kafka config names with prefixes,
> > > > perhaps with inheritance from the non-prefixed names? Not sure if this 
> > > > is a
> > > > good idea, but perhaps worth documenting in Rejected Alternatives at 
> > > > least.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 5:14 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Ron,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the explanation.  I guess thinking about it a little bit 
> > > > > more,
> > > > > we should just add --zk-tls-config-file to all of these commands.
> > > > >
> > > > > We will be removing this option (plus ZK in general) from these 
> > > > > commands
> > > > > in the next major release, but ZK is still supported in 2.5, so we 
> > > > > should
> > > > > just do the logical thing.  (The exception is ZkSecurityMigrator, 
> > > > > which
> > > > > will stay).
> > > > >
> > > > > best,
> > > > > Colin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020, at 07:38, Ron Dagostino wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Colin.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <<< It seems like this [--zk-tls-config-file information] could just
> > > > > appear
> > > > > > in a configuration file, which all of these tools already accept (I
> > > > > think)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ZkSecurityMigrator has no such property file facility; adding a
> > > > > > "--zk-tls-config-file" parameter is exactly for this purpose.  If 
> > > > > > we add
> > > > > > that to ZkSecurityMigrator then it is trivial to add it to other 
> > > > > > commands
> > > > > > (the same code is simply reused; it ends up being just a few extra
> > > > > lines).
> > > > > > I do not see any parameter in the other two commands to adjust the 
> > > > > > ZK
> > > > > > connection; ConfigCommand accepts a "--command-config" flag, but
> > > > > according
> > > > > > to the code "This is used only with --bootstrap-server option for
> > > > > > describing and altering broker configs."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I do agree there would be no need to add "--zk-tls-config-file" to
> > > > > > ReassignPartitionsCommand if its direct ZK connectivity is replaced 
> > > > > > in
> > > > > time
> > > > > > for the next release.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ConfigCommand supports the "--bootstrap-server" option and will 
> > > > > > have its
> > > > > > direct ZooKeeper access formally deprecated as per KIP-555, but the
> > > > > special
> > > > > > use case of bootstrapping a ZooKeeper ensemble with encrypted 
> > > > > > credentials
> > > > > > prior to starting Kafka will still exist, so it feels like while
> > > > > > "--zk-tls-config-file" would never be used except for this use case 
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > could probably still be added for this particular situation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ron
> > > > > >
> > > > > > P.S. I responded on 1/6 but I just discovered that e, ail (and 3 
> > > > > > more I
> > > > > > sent) did not go through.  I am trying to get emails through now to 
> > > > > > move
> > > > > > this discussion forward.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 5:07 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, at 10:48, Ron Dagostino wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi everyone.  I would like to make the following changes to the 
> > > > > > > > KIP.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > MOTIVATION:
> > > > > > > > Include a statement that it will be difficult in the short term 
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > deprecate direct Zookeeper communication in kafka-configs.{sh, 
> > > > > > > > bat}
> > > > > > > (which
> > > > > > > > invoke kafka.admin.ConfigCommand) because bootstrapping a Kafka
> > > > > cluster
> > > > > > > > with encrypted passwords in Zookeeper is an 
> > > > > > > > explicitly-supported use
> > > > > > > case;
> > > > > > > > therefore it is in scope to be able to securely configure the 
> > > > > > > > CLI
> > > > > tools
> > > > > > > > that still leverage non-deprecated direct Zookeeper 
> > > > > > > > communication
> > > > > for TLS
> > > > > > > > (the other 2 tools are kafka-reassign-partitions.{sh, bat} and
> > > > > > > > zookeeper-security-migration.sh).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Ron,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for the KIP.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > About deprecations:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > * zookeeper-security-migration: clearly, deprecating ZK access in 
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > one
> > > > > > > would not make sense, since it would defeat the whole point of the
> > > > > tool :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > * kafka-reassign-partitions: ZK access should be deprecated here.
> > > > > KIP-455
> > > > > > > implementation has dragged a bit, but this should get done soon.
> > > > > Certainly
> > > > > > > before the next release.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > * kafka-configs: I think ZK access should be deprecated here as 
> > > > > > > well.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > agree there is a super-special bootstrapping case here, but that 
> > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > have its own tool, not use kafka-configs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will post a separate KIP for this, though.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > GOALS:
> > > > > > > > Support the secure configuration of TLS-encrypted communication
> > > > > between
> > > > > > > > Zookeeper and:
> > > > > > > >   a) Kafka brokers
> > > > > > > >   b) The three CLI tools mentioned above that still support 
> > > > > > > > direct,
> > > > > > > > non-deprecated communication to Zookeeper
> > > > > > > > It is explicitly out-of-scope to deprecate any direct Zookeeper
> > > > > > > > communication in CLI tools as part of this KIP; such work will 
> > > > > > > > occur
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > > future KIPs instead.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > PUBLIC INTERFACES:
> > > > > > > > 1) The following new broker configurations will be recognized.
> > > > > > > >   zookeeper.client.secure (default value = false, for backwards
> > > > > > > > compatibility)
> > > > > > > >   zookeeper.clientCnxnSocket
> > > > > > > >   zookeeper.ssl.keyStore.location
> > > > > > > >   zookeeper.ssl.keyStore.password
> > > > > > > >   zookeeper.ssl.trustStore.location
> > > > > > > >   zookeeper.ssl.trustStore.password
> > > > > > > > It will be an error for any of the last 5 values to be left
> > > > > unspecified
> > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > zookeeper.client.secure is explicitly set to true.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2) In addition, the kafka.security.authorizer.AclAuthorizer 
> > > > > > > > class
> > > > > > > supports
> > > > > > > > the ability to connect to a different Zookeeper instance than 
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > one the
> > > > > > > > brokers use.  We therefore also add the following optional 
> > > > > > > > configs,
> > > > > which
> > > > > > > > override the corresponding ones from above when present:
> > > > > > > >   authorizer.zookeeper.client.secure
> > > > > > > >   authorizer.zookeeper.clientCnxnSocket
> > > > > > > >   authorizer.zookeeper.ssl.keyStore.location
> > > > > > > >   authorizer.zookeeper.ssl.keyStore.password
> > > > > > > >   authorizer.zookeeper.ssl.trustStore.location
> > > > > > > >   authorizer.zookeeper.ssl.trustStore.password
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 3) The three CLI tools mentioned above will support a new
> > > > > > > --zk-tls-config-file
> > > > > > > > <String: Zookeeper TLS configuration file path>" option.  The
> > > > > following
> > > > > > > > properties will be recognized in that file, and unrecognized
> > > > > properties
> > > > > > > > will be ignored to allow the possibility of pointing
> > > > > zk-tls-config-file
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > the broker's config file.
> > > > > > > >   zookeeper.client.secure (default value = false)
> > > > > > > >   zookeeper.clientCnxnSocket
> > > > > > > >   zookeeper.ssl.keyStore.location
> > > > > > > >   zookeeper.ssl.keyStore.password
> > > > > > > >   zookeeper.ssl.trustStore.location
> > > > > > > >   zookeeper.ssl.trustStore.password
> > > > > > > > It will be an error for any of the last 5 values to be left
> > > > > unspecified
> > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > zookeeper.client.secure is explicitly set to true.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do we really need a --zk-tls-config-file flag?  It seems like this
> > > > > could
> > > > > > > just appear in a configuration file, which all of these tools 
> > > > > > > already
> > > > > > > accept (I think).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > best,
> > > > > > > Colin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ron
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 3:03 PM Ron Dagostino 
> > > > > > > > <rndg...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi everyone.  Let's get this discussion going again now that 
> > > > > > > > > Kafka
> > > > > 2.4
> > > > > > > > > with Zookeeper 3.5.6 is out.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > First, regarding the KIP number, the other KIP that was using 
> > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > number
> > > > > > > > > moved to KIP 534, so KIP 515 remains the correct number for 
> > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > discussion.  I've updated the Kafka Improvement Proposal page 
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > list
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > KIP in the 515 slot, so we're all set there.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regarding the actual issues under discussion, I think there 
> > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > things we should clarify.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1) It is possible to use TLS connectivity to Zookeeper from 
> > > > > > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > Kafka
> > > > > > > > > 2.4 -- the problem is that configuration information has to be
> > > > > passed
> > > > > > > via
> > > > > > > > > system properties as "-D" command line options on the java
> > > > > invocation
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > the broker, and those are not secure (anyone with access to 
> > > > > > > > > the box
> > > > > > > can see
> > > > > > > > > the command line used to invoke the broker); the configuration
> > > > > includes
> > > > > > > > > sensitive information (e.g. a keystore password), so we need a
> > > > > secure
> > > > > > > > > mechanism for passing the configuration values.  I believe 
> > > > > > > > > the real
> > > > > > > > > motivation for this KIP is to harden the configuration 
> > > > > > > > > mechanism
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > Zookeeper TLS connectivity.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2) I believe the list of CLI tools that continue to use direct
> > > > > > > Zookeeper
> > > > > > > > > connectivity in a non-deprecated fashion is:
> > > > > > > > >   a)
> > > > > zookeeper-security-migration.sh/kafka.admin.ZkSecurityMigrator
> > > > > > > > >   b)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > kafka-reassign-partitions.{sh,bat}/kafka.admin.ReassignPartitionsCommand
> > > > > > > > >   c) kafka-configs.{sh, bat}/kafka.admin.ConfigCommand
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 3) I believe Kafka.admin.ConfigCommand presents a conundrum
> > > > > because it
> > > > > > > > > explicitly states in a comment that a supported use case is
> > > > > > > bootstrapping a
> > > > > > > > > Kafka cluster with encrypted passwords in Zookeeper (see
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/blob/trunk/core/src/main/scala/kafka/admin/ConfigCommand.scala#L65
> > > > > > > ).
> > > > > > > > > This means it will be especially difficult to deprecate this
> > > > > particular
> > > > > > > > > direct Zookeeper connectivity without a different storage
> > > > > mechanism for
> > > > > > > > > dynamic configuration values being available (i.e. the 
> > > > > > > > > self-managed
> > > > > > > quorum
> > > > > > > > > referred to in KIP-500).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I think it would be easier and simpler to harden the 
> > > > > > > > > Zookeeper TLS
> > > > > > > > > configuration in both Kafka and in CLI tools compared to 
> > > > > > > > > trying to
> > > > > > > > > deprecate the direct Zookeeper connectivity in the above 3 CLI
> > > > > tools --
> > > > > > > > > especially when ConfigCommand has no obvious short-term path 
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > deprecation.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regarding how to harden the TLS configuration, adding the
> > > > > appropriate
> > > > > > > > > configs to Kafka is an obvious choice for the brokers.  Not 
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > these
> > > > > > > > > values cannot be dynamically reconfigurable because the values
> > > > > would be
> > > > > > > > > required to connect to Zookeeper via TLS in the first place.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regarding how to harden the TLS configuration for the 3 
> > > > > > > > > remaining
> > > > > CLI
> > > > > > > > > tools, it would be relatively straightforward to add support 
> > > > > > > > > for a
> > > > > > > > > "--zk-tls-config-file <String: Zookeeper TLS configuration 
> > > > > > > > > system
> > > > > > > > > properties file path>" option to each one.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ron
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 8:13 AM Pere Urbón Bayes <
> > > > > pere.ur...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> True, the number is duplicated.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>   do you know how can we get the problem fix? I was not 
> > > > > > > > >> aware, I
> > > > > > > missed,
> > > > > > > > >> sorry the need to add the KIP to the table.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> -- Pere
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Missatge de Jorge Esteban Quilcate Otoya <
> > > > > quilcate.jo...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > del
> > > > > > > > >> dia
> > > > > > > > >> dt., 3 de set. 2019 a les 13:43:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > Hi Pere,
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > Have you add your KIP to the list here
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Kafka+Improvement+Proposals
> > > > > > > > >> ?
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > I found the KIP number assigned to another.
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 2:23 PM Pere Urbón Bayes <
> > > > > > > pere.ur...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> >> Thanks for your time Harsha,
> > > > > > > > >> >>    anyone else with comments? looking forward to hearing 
> > > > > > > > >> >> from
> > > > > you.
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> Stupid question: when do you move from discussion to vote?
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> Missatge de Harsha Chintalapani <ka...@harsha.io> del dia
> > > > > dv., 30
> > > > > > > > >> d’ag.
> > > > > > > > >> >> 2019 a les 21:59:
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> > Thanks Pere. KIP looks good to me.
> > > > > > > > >> >> > -Harsha
> > > > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 10:05 AM, Pere Urbón Bayes <
> > > > > > > > >> >> pere.ur...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >> >> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> Not really,
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>   my idea is to keep the JAAS parameter, so people 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> don't see
> > > > > > > major
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> changes. But if you pass a properties file, then this 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> takes
> > > > > > > > >> precedence
> > > > > > > > >> >> over
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> the other, with the idea that you can do sasl as well 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> with
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >> >> properties
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> files.
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> Makes sense?
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> -- Pere
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> Missatge de Harsha Chintalapani <ka...@harsha.io> del 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> dia
> > > > > dv.,
> > > > > > > 30
> > > > > > > > >> >> d’ag.
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> 2019 a les 19:00:
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>> Hi Pere,
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>           Thanks for the KIP. Enabling SSL for 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>> zookeeper
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > Kafka
> > > > > > > > >> >> makes
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>> sense.
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>> "The changes are planned to be introduced in a 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>> compatible
> > > > > way,
> > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>> keeping the current JAAS variable precedence."
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>> Can you elaborate a bit here. If the user configures 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>> a JAAS
> > > > > > > file
> > > > > > > > >> with
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>> Client section it will take precedence over zookeeper 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>> SSL
> > > > > > > configs?
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>> Harsha
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 7:50 AM, Pere Urbón Bayes <
> > > > > > > > >> >> pere.ur...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> Hi,
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> quick question, I saw in another mail that 2.4 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> release is
> > > > > > > planned
> > > > > > > > >> for
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> September. I think it would be really awesome to have
> > > > > this for
> > > > > > > > >> this
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> release, do you think we can make it?
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> -- Pere
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> Missatge de Pere Urbón Bayes <pere.ur...@gmail.com> 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> del
> > > > > dia
> > > > > > > dj.,
> > > > > > > > >> 29
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> d’ag. 2019 a les 20:10:
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> Hi,
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> this is my first KIP for a change in Apache Kafka, 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> so I'm
> > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > >> need
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> to the process. Looking forward to hearing from you 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> and
> > > > > learn
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >> >> best
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> ropes here.
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> I would like to propose this KIP-515 to enable the
> > > > > > > > >> ZookeeperClients
> > > > > > > > >> >> to
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> take full advantage of the TLS communication in the 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> new
> > > > > > > Zookeeper
> > > > > > > > >> >> 3.5.5.
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> Specially interesting it the Zookeeper Security 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> Migration,
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > >> >> without
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> this change will not work with TLS, disabling users 
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> to use
> > > > > > > ACLs
> > > > > > > > >> when
> > > > > > > > >> >> the
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> Zookeeper cluster use TLS.
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> link:
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>>
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-515%3A+Enable+ZK+client+to+use+the+new+TLS+supported+authentication
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> Looking forward to hearing from you on this,
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> /cheers
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> --
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> Pere Urbon-Bayes
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> Software Architect
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> http://www.purbon.com
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> https://twitter.com/purbon
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/purbon/
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> --
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> Pere Urbon-Bayes
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> Software Architect
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> http://www.purbon.com
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> https://twitter.com/purbon
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/purbon/
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> --
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> Pere Urbon-Bayes
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> Software Architect
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> http://www.purbon.com
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> https://twitter.com/purbon
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/purbon/
> > > > > > > > >> >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> --
> > > > > > > > >> >> Pere Urbon-Bayes
> > > > > > > > >> >> Software Architect
> > > > > > > > >> >> http://www.purbon.com
> > > > > > > > >> >> https://twitter.com/purbon
> > > > > > > > >> >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/purbon/
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > >> Pere Urbon-Bayes
> > > > > > > > >> Software Architect
> > > > > > > > >> http://www.purbon.com
> > > > > > > > >> https://twitter.com/purbon
> > > > > > > > >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/purbon/
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >

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