Hi all.

With 2.5.0 approaching, bumping this thread once more as feedback or
votes would be nice.

Thanks

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 1:59 PM Tom Bentley <tbent...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> +1 non-binding. Thanks!
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 1:05 PM Sönke Liebau
> <soenke.lie...@opencore.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Hi Mickael,
> >
> > thanks for your response! That all makes perfect sense and I cannot
> > give any actual use cases for where what I asked about would be useful
> > :)
> > It was more the idle thought if this might be low hanging fruit while
> > changing this anyway to avoid having to circle back later on and
> > wanted to at least mention it.
> >
> > I am totally happy either way!
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Sönke
> >
> > On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 11:20, Mickael Maison <mickael.mai...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Sönke for the feedback.
> > >
> > > I debated this point quite a bit before deciding to base creation
> > > around "min.insync.replicas".
> > >
> > > For me, the goal of this KIP is to enable administrators to provide
> > > higher availability. In a 3 node cluster configured for high
> > > availability (3 replicas, 2 min ISR), by enabling this feature,
> > > clusters should be fully usable even when 1 broker is down. This
> > > should cover all "normal" maintenance operations like a rolling
> > > restart or just the recovery of a broker.
> > >
> > > At the moment, when creating a topic/partition, the assumption is that
> > > the resource will be fully functioning. This KIP does not change this
> > > assumption. If this is something someone wants, I think it should be
> > > handled in a different KIP that targets that use case. By relying on
> > > "min.insync.replicas", we don't break any assumptions the user has and
> > > this should be fully transparent from the user point of view.
> > >
> > > About "min.insync.replicas", one caveat that is not explicit in the
> > > KIP is that it's currently possible to create topics with less
> > > replicas than this settings. For that reason, I think the
> > > implementation will actually rely on min(replicas, min-isr) instead of
> > > simply min.insync.replicas. I have updated the KIP to explicitly
> > > mention this point.
> > >
> > > I hope that answers your question, let me know.
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 4:38 PM Sönke Liebau
> > > <soenke.lie...@opencore.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Michael,
> > > >
> > > > that sounds like a useful addition! I can't help but wonder whether by
> > > > leaving in the restriction that "min.insync.replicas" has to be
> > > > satisfied we'll be back here in a years time because someone has a
> > > > scenario where he or she wants to go below that :)
> > > > I don't have a strong opinion either way to be honest, just a random
> > > > thought when reading the KIP.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Sönke
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 at 22:44, Ryanne Dolan <ryannedo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > +1 non-binding, thx
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 6:09 AM Mickael Maison <
> > mickael.mai...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Bumping this thread, I've not seen any votes or feedback.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:17 PM Mickael Maison
> > > > > > <mickael.mai...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd like to start a vote on KIP-409: Allow creating
> > under-replicated
> > > > > > > topics and partitions
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-409%3A+Allow+creating+under-replicated+topics+and+partitions
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sönke Liebau
> > > > Partner
> > > > Tel. +49 179 7940878
> > > > OpenCore GmbH & Co. KG - Thomas-Mann-Straße 8 - 22880 Wedel - Germany
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sönke Liebau
> > Partner
> > Tel. +49 179 7940878
> > OpenCore GmbH & Co. KG - Thomas-Mann-Straße 8 - 22880 Wedel - Germany
> >
> >

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