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ben fleis commented on KAFKA-689:
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Although it's not precisely the same, perhaps thinking about topic|partition as 
a remote file open is a useful metaphor.  An open() call is where you would set 
normal open params (flush interval, O_CREAT, etc.), and stat() is where you get 
broker and other real time updates.  Of course, if create is explicit, where 
does delete come into play?

@Jun - I don't see where in server.properties anything about topic creation 
exists?  And further, does an extra RPC matter if it's only during 
setup/periodic?
                
> Can't append to a topic/partition that does not already exist
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: KAFKA-689
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-689
>             Project: Kafka
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: clients
>    Affects Versions: 0.8
>            Reporter: David Arthur
>         Attachments: kafka.log, produce-payload.bin
>
>
> With a totally fresh Kafka (empty logs dir and empty ZK), if I send a 
> ProduceRequest for a new topic, Kafka responds with 
> "kafka.common.UnknownTopicOrPartitionException: Topic test partition 0 
> doesn't exist on 0". This is when sending a ProduceRequest over the network 
> (from Python, in this case).
> If I use the console producer it works fine (topic and partition get 
> created). If I then send the same payload from before over the network, it 
> works.

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