Hi Glen,

Each page on the legacy wiki has a bright yellow header on it linking to
the new
site, so I don't think too many users are going to be confused as to which
is the
current site. That header could be modified to be more clear about the
status
of the site.

While the technical information on the legacy wiki is in many cases out of
date,
there are also over 3600 pages on the legacy wiki representing the history
of
the JSPWiki project. One of the main points of a wiki is that history is
not
destroyed. Closing down the legacy site would represent the destruction of
all
of the history of the project. Some people may not find history interesting
or
valuable, but there are likewise some that do. It would be a real shame to
lose
all of that history, as there is likely an enormous amount of information
that might
be still valuable to the future of the project.

If maintaining the old site is something that Janne considers a burden,
fair
enough, but I'd prefer to take Janne's statement to the point at which when
he
wants to stop hosting the site. We are still copying (and editing) content
over
from the legacy site. I don't know that you might mean by 'bulk' -- I
wouldn't
expect to take anywhere near half of that 3603 pages -- but for all of the
content we do copy/edit over to the new site, I expect that might take some
time.

If Janne has a rough deadline for shutting down the old site it would be
good
to know what that is. Janne?

[...and if it becomes an issue we (Neocortext) might consider hosting the
legacy
content, either temporarily or indefinitely. We wouldn't host anything
except the
most current pages, and it would also depend on how much space those pages
take up.]

Ichiro


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Glen Mazza <glen.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> To a point, once the bulk of necessary information is on on Apache servers
> I feel it would be better to sever the link to the ecyrd site; it's loaded
> with a lot of obsolete stuff.  We want JSPWiki to be a Wiki for the future,
> not that of the past, and detailed instructions of how to configure JSPWiki
> with Tomcat 4 or JDK 1.4, for example, don't give a positive impression.
>  Further, Janne has often stated his desire to stop hosting the site, he
> has been hosting it for us just as a favor until we could get a Wiki hosted
> at Apache.
>
> Glen
>
> On 01/15/2014 03:54 AM, Ichiro Furusato wrote:
>
>> hi Juan Pablo,
>>
>> I'm guessing then that you must not mean to change the 'legacy' link on
>> the documentation page, so I'll trust your judgement. So long as we still
>> maintain one link to the old wiki (labelled as 'legacy') I think that will
>> be fine.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ichiro
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Ichiro,
>>>
>>> My intention was to have that newcomers entry point linking to the wiki
>>> hosted at j-wiki.a.o, rather than pointing to the legacy site. A big
>>> bunch
>>> of documentation has been moved to the new wiki, so I thought it was time
>>> to start pointing the new site and filling any missing documentation as
>>> it's needed. Note that in any case the link to the legacy wiki is kept in
>>> the new page.
>>>
>>>
>>> br,
>>> juan pablo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Ichiro Furusato
>>> <ichiro.furus...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi Juan Pablo,
>>>>
>>>> Not wanting to be contrary, but the 'legacy' wiki is the ecyrd.comwiki,
>>>> i.e., the wiki
>>>> prior to the Apache project. I would hope we keep a link to it as the
>>>> legacy wiki so
>>>> long as Janne keeps that site active. The 'current' documentation wiki
>>>> is
>>>> the current
>>>> Apache-hosted wiki. I don't quite understand why you'd remove the link
>>>> (unless
>>>> you're referring to a link that isn't *actually* labelled as 'legacy').
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Ichiro
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
>>>> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> the "(Legacy)Doc wiki" at jspwiki.a.o points to
>>>>> http://www.ecyrd.com/JSPWiki/wiki/JSPWikiDocumentation, how about
>>>>>
>>>> changing
>>>>
>>>>> it to
>>>>>
>>>> https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/Wiki.jsp?page=JSPWikiDocumentation
>>>
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> br,
>>>>> juan pablo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>

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