Okay, I phrased that badly. I mean an extra platform-specific ZIP file that I used to augment the generic Ignite ZIP file.
So, to run on Azure I’d download ignite.zip + azure.zip. Extending ignite.sh would also be great, kind of like what’s happening with Ignite 3 as far as I can tell. What I’m advocating is not needing to use Maven just to run Ignite on Azure, AWS, etc. > On 13 Oct 2021, at 14:35, Petr Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Our self-contained zip file currently is over 400Mb and continues to grow. > Even considering that internet speeds has grown too, it is nonsense to force > user to download such an archive where 90% are useless for most cases. > > Also we can: > — pack all extensions in single binary with latests releases (and update > after each extension release) or even one by one > — extend ignite.sh to download remote libs when extension is activated via > command line > > > Antoine de Saint-Exupéry once said that 'perfection is achieved, not when > there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away'. > We are not obliged to make Apache Ignite ideal, but we certainly can move > that way — I am sure the result will exceed expectations. > > > >> On 13 Oct 2021, at 16:02, Stephen Darlington >> <stephen.darling...@gridgain.com> wrote: >> >> Having extensions in Maven Central makes perfect sense for tools that need >> to be built and integrated with other code, Spring integrations for example. >> >> That’s not the case for extensions that are required just to run Ignite. A >> self-contained zip file for each platform would work. >> >>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 13:41, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>> Nikolay, >>> >>> All extensions will be available at the maven central for download. >>> >>> Previously extensions have a dependent version on the ignite core, so >>> each time the Ignite was released it made sense to include all the >>> extensions into the uber-zip file. Each extension has its own release >>> version now, so an extension can be upgraded and used independently, >>> what is the reason include it in the single uber-zip file? Probably it >>> would be better to provide a self-contained zip file for each cloud >>> platform. >>> >>> If I've missed your issue, so can you clarify the problem in more detail? >>> >>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 14:37, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Maxim. >>>> >>>>> Currently, they are copied from the optional >>>>> directory of the ignite binary package but would be copied from an >>>>> appropriate ignite extension binary package. >>>> >>>> But how, the user will download this binary package? >>>> Right now, all the user need is Ignite distributive. >>>> >>>> >>>>> 13 окт. 2021 г., в 14:32, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org> написал(а): >>>>> >>>>> Stephen, >>>>> >>>>> I guess the required classes of IP-finders should be in the classpath >>>>> (libs directory). Currently, they are copied from the optional >>>>> directory of the ignite binary package but would be copied from an >>>>> appropriate ignite extension binary package. Probably I'm missing >>>>> something but almost nothing changes in that process from my point of >>>>> view. The documentation pages will be updated prior to the release. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 13:44, Stephen Darlington >>>>> <stephen.darling...@gridgain.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I understand the motivation from a development point of view, but how >>>>>> will this work for end users? Currently, the documentation talks about >>>>>> extensions only in terms of importing maven dependencies (download.cgi >>>>>> <https://ignite.apache.org/download.cgi#extensions>). If I’m trying to >>>>>> start a cluster on Azure, how does that work? Do I need to build my own >>>>>> server? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Stephen >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 13 Oct 2021, at 11:35, Nikita Amelchev <namelc...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 to migrate and include to the Ignite 2.12 scope >>>>>>> >>>>>>> пн, 20 сент. 2021 г. в 17:09, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Perfect, thanks, Maxim! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>> Denis >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 8:29 AM Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Folks, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've created an issue [1] to move all cloud-based IP-finders to the >>>>>>>>> ignite-extensions. The motivation is the same as with migration of >>>>>>>>> Spring Data integration - to remove integration dependency of the >>>>>>>>> release cycle on Ignite releases. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-15541 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Best wishes, >>>>>>> Amelchev Nikita >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> >> >
