> Here is the description of TUPLE_GET_ALL:
- UUID: table ID
- int: schema ID
- arr of arr: array of rows with values for all columns in given schema

I suppose that we should describe this more verbose and explicit. I
nevertheless suggest to also consider writing values this way:
- arr of fields names (if name is missed, corresponding field is nil)
- arr of rows (row as array, length equal to fields array)

It is quite simple and if we use str8 (it is more than enough for any utf-8
reasonable field name), overhead will be negligible, but realization of a
client will be way simpler

чт, 1 июл. 2021 г., 16:57 Pavel Tupitsyn <ptupit...@apache.org>:

> > No it isn't, I have carefully read code and IEP, in your code you write
> > schema id in each tuple.
>
> There is no code for batch operations yet.
>
> Here is the description of TUPLE_GET_ALL:
> - UUID: table ID
> - int: schema ID
> - arr of arr: array of rows with values for all columns in given schema
> (nil when value is missing for a column)
>
> As you can see, schema ID is written once for all rows.
> A row is just a set of values according to the schema.
>
>
> > Also, my biggest concern -- extra serde step. I suppose we should pass
> > bytearray to internal api, and use msgpack throughout all wire protocols,
> > as tarantool does.
>
> I agree. But this was decided before in IEP-54, and is out of scope for
> current IEP.
> Would you like to start a separate thread to discuss this? Or I can do this
> a bit later.
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 4:41 PM Ivan Daschinsky <ivanda...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > > This is described in all operations that include multiple tuples.
> > No it isn't, I have carefully read code and IEP, in your code you write
> > schema id in each tuple.
> >
> > Also, my biggest concern -- extra serde step. I suppose we should pass
> > bytearray to internal api, and use msgpack throughout all wire protocols,
> > as tarantool does.
> >
> > чт, 1 июл. 2021 г., 16:15 Pavel Tupitsyn <ptupit...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > Ivan,
> > >
> > > >  that there is not neccesary to write schema versions in each row
> > > > in collectionof tuples
> > >
> > > This is described in all operations that include multiple tuples.
> > >
> > >
> > > > it is not clear from your code (probably
> > > > mistake?) how differ key tuples and value tuples from each other
> > >
> > > Key tuples include only key columns. Key columns come first in the
> > schema.
> > > Value tuples include all columns, key and value. Added "Key tuples"
> > > section.
> > >
> > >
> > > > As for me, these excercises with schema's doesn't worth a lot
> > >
> > > I'll add a benchmark and we'll see.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 3:17 PM Ivan Daschinsky <ivanda...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I suppose, that there is not neccesary to write schema versions in
> each
> > > row
> > > > in collectionof tuples. Also it is not clear from your code (probably
> > > > mistake?) how differ key tuples and value tuples from each other. In
> > > > readTuple you always read full schema and check for full length. As
> for
> > > me,
> > > > these excercises with schema's doesn't worth a lot. I.e. postgres
> just
> > > > writes field names and then simpy rows with data. Saving few bytes
> > > doesn't
> > > > make much deal. Btw, msgpack has special types for short strings
> (i.e.
> > > > str8). It is much easier use it and write field name as is.
> > > >
> > > > чт, 1 июл. 2021 г., 14:56 Pavel Tupitsyn <ptupit...@apache.org>:
> > > >
> > > > > Ivan, tuple serialization section added to the IEP, let me know if
> it
> > > is
> > > > > clear enough.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 2:06 PM Ivan Daschinsky <
> ivanda...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I can't find any description of tuple serialization in IEP, only
> in
> > > > code
> > > > > >
> > > > > > чт, 1 июл. 2021 г., 13:59 Pavel Tupitsyn <ptupit...@apache.org>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ivan,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 0. The IEP is not in progress, it is ready for review and
> > > discussion.
> > > > > > > 1. Tuple serialization is described in the IEP and demonstrated
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > PoC
> > > > > > > (see ClientMessageHandler#readTuple), let me know if more
> details
> > > are
> > > > > > > required
> > > > > > > 2. Tuple schema serialization is described in SCHEMAS_GET
> > section.
> > > > > Table
> > > > > > > schema (configuration) needs more details, you are right - I'll
> > add
> > > > > them.
> > > > > > > 3. This IEP is about tables (tuple-based) API only, since it is
> > the
> > > > > only
> > > > > > > API that we have right now, as noted in Risks and Assumptions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 1:53 PM Ivan Daschinsky <
> > > ivanda...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also, is there any clear information about KV api? Is there
> any
> > > > plan
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > implement it? Or is there any proposal about it?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > чт, 1 июл. 2021 г., 13:51 Ivan Daschinsky <
> ivanda...@gmail.com
> > >:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Pavel, but IEP is in progress, isn't it?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1. There is not any information about tuple serialization.
> > And
> > > > > there
> > > > > > > > isn't
> > > > > > > > > a clear consensus about it.
> > > > > > > > > 2. There is not any information about schrma serialization
> > > > format.
> > > > > > And
> > > > > > > > > AFAIK, there isn't a clear consensus also.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > чт, 1 июл. 2021 г., 13:26 Pavel Tupitsyn <
> > ptupit...@apache.org
> > > >:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Igniters,
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Please review the IEP for thin client protocol in 3.0 [1].
> > > > > > > > >> PoC is in progress [2]
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> [1]
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/IEP-76+Thin+Client+Protocol+for+Ignite+3.0
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> [2] https://github.com/apache/ignite-3/pull/191
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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