Saikat, Nikolay,

We have migrated a bunch of modules to ignite-extensions recently. Given
that these modules will not be available in Ignite 2.9 anymore (will
they?), should we also plan to release the extensions?

ср, 23 сент. 2020 г. в 21:49, Alex Plehanov <plehanov.a...@gmail.com>:

> Igniters,
>
> I've prepared release notes for the 2.9 release [1]. Can anyone review it,
> please?
>
> [1]: https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/8273
>
> вт, 22 сент. 2020 г. в 09:39, Alex Plehanov <plehanov.a...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Guys,
> >
> > I've filled the ticket with reproducer [1] for the discovery bug. This
> bug
> > caused by [2] ticket. We discussed with Vladimir Steshin privately and
> > decided to revert this ticket. I will do it today (after TC bot visa) if
> > there are no objections.
> >
> > [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13465
> > [2]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13134
> >
> > пн, 21 сент. 2020 г. в 11:08, Alex Plehanov <plehanov.a...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Guys,
> >>
> >> During internal testing, we've found a critical bug with
> >> discovery (cluster falls apart if two nodes segmented sequentially).
> This
> >> problem is not reproduced in 2.8.1. I think we should fix it
> >> before release. Under investigation now. I'll let you know when we get
> >> something.
> >>
> >> чт, 17 сент. 2020 г. в 00:51, Andrey Gura <ag...@apache.org>:
> >>
> >>> > So what do you think? Should we proceed with a 'hacked' version of
> the
> >>> message factory in 2.9 and go for the runtime message generation in
> later
> >>> release, or keep the code clean and fix the regression in the next
> releases?
> >>> > Andrey, can you take a look at my change? I think it is fairly
> >>> straightforward and does not change the semantics, just skips the
> factory
> >>> closures for certain messages.
> >>>
> >>> IMHO 2.5% isn't too much especially because it isn't actual for all
> >>> workloads (I didn't get any significant drops during benchmarking). So
> >>> I prefer the runtime generation in later releases.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 12:41 PM Alexey Goncharuk
> >>> <alexey.goncha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Alexey, Andrey, Igniters,
> >>> >
> >>> > So what do you think? Should we proceed with a 'hacked' version of
> the
> >>> message factory in 2.9 and go for the runtime message generation in
> later
> >>> release, or keep the code clean and fix the regression in the next
> releases?
> >>> > Andrey, can you take a look at my change? I think it is fairly
> >>> straightforward and does not change the semantics, just skips the
> factory
> >>> closures for certain messages.
> >>> >
> >>> > Personally, I would prefer fixing the regression given that we also
> >>> introduced tracing in this release.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > пт, 11 сент. 2020 г. в 12:09, Alex Plehanov <plehanov.a...@gmail.com
> >:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Alexey,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> We've benchmarked by yardstick commits 130376741bf vs ed52559eb95
> and
> >>> the performance of ed52559eb95 is better for about 2.5% on average on
> our
> >>> environment (about the same results we got benchmarking 65c30ec6 vs
> >>> 0606f03d). We've made 24 runs for each commit of
> >>> IgnitePutTxImplicitBenchmark (we got maximum drop for 2.9 on this
> >>> benchmark), 200 seconds warmup, 300 seconds benchmark, 6 servers, 5
> clients
> >>> 50 threads each. Yardstick results for this configuration:
> >>> >> Commit 130376741bf: avg TPS=164096, avg latency=9173464 ns
> >>> >> Commit ed52559eb95: avg TPS=168283, avg latency=8945908 ns
> >>> >>
> >>> >> пт, 11 сент. 2020 г. в 09:51, Artem Budnikov <
> >>> a.budnikov.ign...@gmail.com>:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Hi Everyone,
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> I posted an instruction on how to publish the docs on
> >>> ignite.apache.org/docs [1]. When you finish with Ignite 2.9, you can
> >>> update the docs by following the instruction. Unfortunately, I won't be
> >>> able to spend any time on this project any longer. You can send your
> pull
> >>> requests and questions about the documentation to Denis Magda.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> -Artem
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> [1] :
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/How+to+Document
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 2:45 PM Alexey Goncharuk <
> >>> alexey.goncha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Alexey,
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> I've tried to play with message factories locally, but
> >>> unfortunately, I
> >>> >>>> cannot spot the difference between old and new implementation in
> >>> >>>> distributed benchmarks. I pushed an implementation of
> >>> MessageFactoryImpl
> >>> >>>> with the old switch statement to the ignite-2.9-revert-12568
> branch
> >>> >>>> (discussed this with Andrey Gura, the change should be compatible
> >>> with the
> >>> >>>> new metrics as we still use the register() mechanics).
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Can you check if this change makes any difference performance-wise
> >>> in your
> >>> >>>> environment? If yes, we can go with runtime code generation in the
> >>> long
> >>> >>>> term: register classes and generate a dynamic message factory with
> >>> a switch
> >>> >>>> statement once all messages are registered (not in 2.9 though,
> >>> obviously).
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> ср, 9 сент. 2020 г. в 14:53, Alex Plehanov <
> plehanov.a...@gmail.com
> >>> >:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> > Hello guys,
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > I've tried to optimize tracing implementation (ticket [1]), it
> >>> reduced the
> >>> >>>> > drop, but not completely removed it.
> >>> >>>> > Ivan Rakov, Alexander Lapin, can you please review the patch?
> >>> >>>> > Ivan Artiukhov, can you please benchmark the patch [2] against
> >>> 2.8.1
> >>> >>>> > release on your environment?
> >>> >>>> > With this patch on our environment, it's about a 3% drop left,
> >>> it's close
> >>> >>>> > to measurement error and I think such a drop is not a
> >>> showstopper. Guys,
> >>> >>>> > WDYT?
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Also, I found that compatibility is broken for JDBC thin driver
> >>> between 2.8
> >>> >>>> > and 2.9 versions (ticket [3]). I think it's a blocker and should
> >>> be
> >>> >>>> > fixed in 2.9. I've prepared the patch.
> >>> >>>> > Taras Ledkov, can you please review this patch?
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > And one more ticket I propose to include into 2.9 [4] (NIO
> message
> >>> >>>> > send problem in some circumstances). I will cherry-pick it if
> >>> there is no
> >>> >>>> > objection.
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13411
> >>> >>>> > [2] https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/8223
> >>> >>>> > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13414
> >>> >>>> > [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13361
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > пн, 7 сент. 2020 г. в 14:14, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org
> >:
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > > Alexey,
> >>> >>>> > >
> >>> >>>> > > I propose to include [1] issue to the 2.9 release. Since this
> >>> issue is
> >>> >>>> > > related to the new master key change functionality which
> >>> haven't been
> >>> >>>> > > released yet I think it will be safe to cherry-pick commit to
> >>> the
> >>> >>>> > > release branch.
> >>> >>>> > >
> >>> >>>> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13390
> >>> >>>> > >
> >>> >>>> > > On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 12:13, Nikolay Izhikov <
> >>> nizhi...@apache.org>
> >>> >>>> > wrote:
> >>> >>>> > > >
> >>> >>>> > > > Hello, Igniters.
> >>> >>>> > > >
> >>> >>>> > > > Alexey, please, include one more Python thin client fix [1]
> >>> into the
> >>> >>>> > 2.9
> >>> >>>> > > release
> >>> >>>> > > > It fixes kinda major issue - "Python client returns fields
> in
> >>> wrong
> >>> >>>> > > order since the 2 row when fields_count>10"
> >>> >>>> > > >
> >>> >>>> > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12809
> >>> >>>> > > > [2]
> >>> >>>> > >
> >>> >>>> >
> >>>
> https://github.com/apache/ignite/commit/38025ee4167f05eaa2d6a2c5c2ab70c83a462cfc
> >>> >>>> > > >
> >>> >>>> > > > > 31 авг. 2020 г., в 19:23, Alexey Goncharuk <
> >>> >>>> > alexey.goncha...@gmail.com>
> >>> >>>> > > написал(а):
> >>> >>>> > > > >
> >>> >>>> > > > > Alexey, thanks, got it. I am not sure we can optimize
> >>> anything out of
> >>> >>>> > > the
> >>> >>>> > > > > message factory with suppliers (at least I have no ideas
> >>> right now),
> >>> >>>> > so
> >>> >>>> > > > > most likely the only move here is to switch back to the
> >>> switch
> >>> >>>> > approach
> >>> >>>> > > > > somehow preserving the metrics part. Probably, inlining
> the
> >>> Ignite
> >>> >>>> > > messages
> >>> >>>> > > > > to the IgniteMessageFactoryImpl should do the trick. Let
> me
> >>> explore
> >>> >>>> > the
> >>> >>>> > > > > code a bit.
> >>> >>>> > > > >
> >>> >>>> > > > > P.S. I am surprised by the impact this part makes for the
> >>> >>>> > performance.
> >>> >>>> > > > > Message creation is indeed on the hot path, but a single
> >>> virtual call
> >>> >>>> > > > > should not make that much of a difference given the amount
> >>> of other
> >>> >>>> > > work
> >>> >>>> > > > > happening during the message processing.
> >>> >>>> > > > >
> >>> >>>> > > > > пн, 31 авг. 2020 г. в 18:33, Alex Plehanov <
> >>> plehanov.a...@gmail.com
> >>> >>>> > >:
> >>> >>>> > > > >
> >>> >>>> > > > >> Alexey, sorry, I wrongly interpreted our benchmark
> results.
> >>> >>>> > Actually,
> >>> >>>> > > we
> >>> >>>> > > > >> were looking for a drop using bi-sect in the range
> between
> >>> e6a7f93
> >>> >>>> > > (first
> >>> >>>> > > > >> commit in the 2.9 branch after 2.8 branch cut) and
> >>> 6592dfa5 (last
> >>> >>>> > > commit in
> >>> >>>> > > > >> the 2.9 branch). And we found these two problematic
> >>> commits.
> >>> >>>> > > > >>
> >>> >>>> > > > >> Perhaps only IGNITE-13060 (Tracing) is responsible for a
> >>> drop
> >>> >>>> > between
> >>> >>>> > > > >> 2.8.1 and 2.9 (we have benchmarked 2.8.1 vs 2.9 with
> >>> reverted
> >>> >>>> > > IGNITE-13060
> >>> >>>> > > > >> now and performance looks the same)
> >>> >>>> > > > >>
> >>> >>>> > > > >> Ticket IGNITE-12568 (MessageFactory refactoring) is not
> >>> related to
> >>> >>>> > > drop
> >>> >>>> > > > >> between 2.8.1 and 2.9, but still has some performance
> >>> problem, and
> >>> >>>> > we
> >>> >>>> > > can
> >>> >>>> > > > >> win back IGNITE-13060 drop by this ticket.
> >>> >>>> > > > >>
> >>> >>>> > > > >> Do we need more investigation on IGNITE-13060 or we leave
> >>> it as is?
> >>> >>>> > > > >>
> >>> >>>> > > > >> What should we do with IGNITE-12568 (MessageFactory
> >>> refactoring)?
> >>> >>>> > > > >>
> >>> >>>> > > > >> пн, 31 авг. 2020 г. в 13:25, Alexey Goncharuk <
> >>> >>>> > > alexey.goncha...@gmail.com
> >>> >>>> > > > >>> :
> >>> >>>> > > > >>
> >>> >>>> > > > >>> Alexey,
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>
> >>> >>>> > > > >>> While investigating, I found that IGNITE-12568 has an
> >>> incorrect fix
> >>> >>>> > > > >>> version and is actually present in ignite-2.8.1 branch
> >>> [1], so it
> >>> >>>> > > cannot be
> >>> >>>> > > > >>> the source of the drop against 2.8.1.
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>
> >>> >>>> > > > >>> P.S. Looks like we need to enforce a more accurate work
> >>> with fix
> >>> >>>> > > versions
> >>> >>>> > > > >>> or develop some sort of tooling to verify the fix
> >>> versions.
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>
> >>> >>>> > > > >>> --AG
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>
> >>> >>>> > > > >>> [1]
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>
> >>> >>>> > >
> >>> >>>> >
> >>>
> https://github.com/apache/ignite/commit/3e492bd23851856bbd0385c6a419892d0bba2a34
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>
> >>> >>>> > > > >>> пн, 31 авг. 2020 г. в 12:42, Alexey Goncharuk <
> >>> >>>> > > alexey.goncha...@gmail.com
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>> :
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>> пт, 28 авг. 2020 г. в 11:16, Alex Plehanov <
> >>> >>>> > plehanov.a...@gmail.com
> >>> >>>> > > >:
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> Guys,
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>>
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> We have benchmarked 2.9 without IGNITE-13060 and
> >>> IGNITE-12568
> >>> >>>> > > (reverted
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> it
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> locally) and got the same performance as on 2.8.1
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>>
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> IGNITE-13060 (Tracing) - some code was added to hot
> >>> paths, to
> >>> >>>> > trace
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> these
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> hot paths, it's clear why we have performance drop
> here.
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>>
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> IGNITE-12568 (MessageFactory refactoring) -
> switch/case
> >>> block was
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> refactored to an array of message suppliers. The
> >>> message factory
> >>> >>>> > > is on
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> the
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> hot path, which explains why this commit has an impact
> >>> on total
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> performance.
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> I've checked JIT assembly output, done some JMH
> >>> microbenchmarks,
> >>> >>>> > > and
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> found
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> that old implementation of MessageFactory.create()
> >>> about 30-35%
> >>> >>>> > > faster
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> than
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> the new one. The reason - approach with switch/case
> can
> >>> >>>> > effectively
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> inline
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> message creation code, but with an array of suppliers
> >>> relatively
> >>> >>>> > > heavy
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> "invokeinterface" cannot be skipped. I've tried to
> >>> rewrite the
> >>> >>>> > code
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> using
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> an abstract class for suppliers instead of an
> interface
> >>> (to
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> replace "invokeinterface" with the "invokevirtual"),
> >>> but it gives
> >>> >>>> > > back
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> only
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> 10% of method performance and in this case, code looks
> >>> ugly
> >>> >>>> > > (lambdas
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> can't
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> be used). Currently, I can't find any more ways to
> >>> optimize the
> >>> >>>> > > current
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> approach (except return to the switch/case block).
> >>> Andrey Gura,
> >>> >>>> > as
> >>> >>>> > > the
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> author of IGNITE-12568, maybe you have some ideas
> about
> >>> >>>> > > optimization?
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>>
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> Perhaps we should revert IGNITE-12568, but there are
> >>> some metrics
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> already
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> created, which can't be rewritten using old message
> >>> factory
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> implementation
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>> (IGNITE-12756). Guys, WDYT?
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>>
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>> Alexey,
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>> I see that IGNITE-12756 (metrics improvements) is
> >>> already released
> >>> >>>> > > in
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>> Ignite 2.8.1 while IGNITE-12568 (message factory) is
> >>> only present
> >>> >>>> > > in Ignite
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>> 2.9. Let's revert both IGNITE-12568 and whichever new
> >>> metrics
> >>> >>>> > > created for
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>> 2.9 that depend on the new message factory to unblock
> >>> the release
> >>> >>>> > > and deal
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>> with the optimizations in 2.10?
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>>
> >>> >>>> > > > >>>
> >>> >>>> > > >
> >>> >>>> > >
> >>> >>>> >
> >>>
> >>
>

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