Hi Saikat, Absolutely, we should revisit the existing APIs and decide which we want to keep as-is, which we want to remove, and which we want to rework and modernize. 3.0 is a rare opportunity to do such a cleanup :)
-Val On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 6:54 PM Saikat Maitra <saikat.mai...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Val, > > Thank you for sharing the page and your efforts in compiling the features > list, I am thinking since it is a major version release then shall we > include a section for deprecated features and add changes as mentioned in > our Apache Ignite 3.0 Wishlist > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+3.0+Wishlist > > Regards, > Saikat > > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 1:25 AM Petr Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi, Val! > > Thanks for your efforts on this endeavour! > > > > > > I would like to suggest deliveries changes in Apache Ignite 3.0: > > — modularised binary delivery — single minimal binary for starting > > Ignite and all other modules and parts of the project (benchmarks, > > examples, etc.) packed in their own binary which can be added via custom > > dependency management tool (i.e. modules.sh) > > — same distribution for RPM and DEB packages but with modules packed as > > separate ones (PHP for example) > > — separate thin client release cycle with custom versioning > > Possibly, we can we add additional section to the document you introduced > > for this part. > > > > Also, it seems that full JDK11 support (including building) would be a > > huge milestone and a sign of healthy modern project that tends to be on > the > > verge of mainstream technologies and not the stockpile of legacy > leftovers > > (fully support Iliya in removing all that was deprecated and/or marked as > > unused anymore). > > > > > > > On 8 Aug 2020, at 02:00, Valentin Kulichenko < > > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > > > I've created the page: > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+3.0 > > > > > > That's not everything I have in mind, but I believe there is already a > > lot > > > to talk about :) > > > > > > Please take a look let me know if you have any concerns, objections, or > > > questions. Once we reach the consensus on the proposed changes, I will > > > start creating tickets in Jira and a more detailed plan. > > > > > > -Val > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 6:28 PM Saikat Maitra <saikat.mai...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Hi Denis, Val > > >> > > >> Thank you for your reply and really appreciate it. It will be very > cool > > to > > >> be able to connect and plan release together and learn more about > > Ignite in > > >> the process :) > > >> > > >> Regards > > >> Saikat > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 7:12 PM Valentin Kulichenko < > > >> valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi Saikat, > > >>> > > >>> That surely is a great idea. We will work together with Denis on > > setting > > >>> this up in the nearest future. > > >>> > > >>> -Val > > >>> > > >>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 10:21 AM Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org> > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Saikat, > > >>>> > > >>>> Fully support your idea on a virtual meetup! Once Val collects and > > >>> outlines > > >>>> the main changes with directions on wiki, we’ll go ahead and > schedule > > >> the > > >>>> meetup to talk things out in a bit more detail. We’ll use our new > > >> Virtual > > >>>> Ignite Meetup group for that inviting both Ignite contributors and > > >>>> application developers. > > >>>> > > >>>> Denis > > >>>> > > >>>> On Thursday, August 6, 2020, Saikat Maitra <saikat.mai...@gmail.com > > > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Hi Valentin > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Thank you for sharing and starting the thread. I am thinking if it > > >> will > > >>>> be > > >>>>> a good idea to have a virtual meet setup to discuss on the release > > >>>>> planning. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> It will help to learn more individual features to be added and also > > >> to > > >>>>> understand about features that have been deprecated and scheduled > for > > >>>>> removal in Ignite 3.0 release. Also it will help community member > to > > >>>>> connect in real time and ask questions and share feedback. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Regards, > > >>>>> Saikat > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 3:51 AM Ilya Kasnacheev < > > >>>> ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Hello! > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I hope to see Apache Ignite release 3.0 as API trimming release. > > >> Let > > >>> us > > >>>>>> correct external and internal APIs for which we have better ideas > > >>> now, > > >>>> as > > >>>>>> well as remove old and deprecated code. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> We may also introduce new configuration mechanisms and user-facing > > >>> API > > >>>>>> (such as cache-less native SQL queries), but this we could > > >> prototype > > >>>>> before > > >>>>>> starting the 3.0 task. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I will advise against targeting large new features at 3.0. They > can > > >>> be > > >>>>>> added in subsequent point releases, whereas we can't really remove > > >> or > > >>>>>> remodel stuff in point releases. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Regards, > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> Ilya Kasnacheev > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> чт, 6 авг. 2020 г. в 03:54, Valentin Kulichenko < > > >>>>>> valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com>: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Igniters, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I would like to kick off a discussion regarding Ignite 3.0. > > >> Ignite > > >>>> 2.0 > > >>>>>>> exists for more than 3 years now and we've already collected a > > >>>>>> significant > > >>>>>>> list [1] of changes that we would like to have, but cannot > > >>> implement > > >>>>>>> without breaking compatibility. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I think it's time to start planning for the next major release > > >> and > > >>>>>>> discussing what should be included. I've already gathered some > > >>>>>> information > > >>>>>>> and feedback, and have some thoughts on how to approach this. In > > >>> the > > >>>>> next > > >>>>>>> few days, I will put everything into a Wiki page and will share > > >> it > > >>>> once > > >>>>>>> this is done. Stay tuned! > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I'm willing to drive the 3.0 activities going forward as well. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> In the meantime, if there are any immediate thoughts or ideas, > > >>> please > > >>>>>> feel > > >>>>>>> free to join the thread and share them. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> [1] > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/ > > >>>>> Apache+Ignite+3.0+Wishlist > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Regards, > > >>>>>>> Val > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> - > > >>>> Denis > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > >
