Ok, CMake now is the only option to build C++ on non-windows platforms.
Autotools is removed from master.

Many thanks to Igor Sapego, Zhenya Stanilovsky, Nickolay Izhikov and Ilya
Kasnacheev for review, testing and suggestions.

вт, 23 июн. 2020 г. в 18:42, Ivan Daschinsky <ivanda...@gmail.com>:

> I suppose, that removal of autotools from source code is a question of a
> week. There is no need to support it.
>
> вт, 23 июн. 2020 г., 18:38 Ilya Kasnacheev <ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> Once you do that, I think it would make sense to remove autotools
>> invocation from artifact build process. In the future we may choose to
>> remove autotools support entirely.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --
>> Ilya Kasnacheev
>>
>>
>> вт, 23 июн. 2020 г. в 18:00, Petr Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> > That host was down for some time and got up only recently.
>> > Installed cmake there also.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > On 23 Jun 2020, at 17:39, Ivan Daschinsky <ivanda...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Petr, I see, that cmake is missing on aitc10_05 but it is in pool and
>> > > trying to run build.
>> > >
>> > > [1] --
>> > >
>> >
>> https://ci.ignite.apache.org/buildConfiguration/IgniteTests24Java8_PlatformCPPCMakeLinux/5412025
>> > >
>> > > вт, 23 июн. 2020 г. в 17:33, Ivan Daschinsky <ivanda...@gmail.com>:
>> > >
>> > >>>> For the sake of discretion, I'd purpose to remove old suites from
>> Run
>> > >> All and archive or pause them for some time before removal.
>> > >> Agree, I was talking about removal from RunAll chain, complete
>> removal
>> > is
>> > >> not necessary.
>> > >> But after private discussion with Igor Sapego, me and he decided to
>> wait
>> > >> for a week before exclusion of these suites from RunAll.
>> > >>
>> > >> вт, 23 июн. 2020 г. в 17:21, Petr Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com>:
>> > >>
>> > >>> For the sake of discretion, I'd purpose to remove old suites from
>> Run
>> > All
>> > >>> and archive or pause them for some time before removal.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> On 23 Jun 2020, at 13:26, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> So, folks, is it ok to remove old suites from build chain
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> +1 from me.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> 23 июня 2020 г., в 13:15, Ivan Daschinsky <ivanda...@gmail.com>
>> > >>> написал(а):
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Well, new suites added to RunAll and all seems to be ok.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> I think it is time to remove old suites.
>> > >>>>> WDYT?
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Also, I created patch with removal of autotools, but old suites
>> > should
>> > >>> be
>> > >>>>> removed first.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> So, folks, is it ok to remove old suites from build chain?
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> вт, 23 июн. 2020 г. в 10:36, Ivan Daschinsky <ivanda...@gmail.com
>> >:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Ok, I changed agents requirements to builds and add them to
>> runAll
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> пн, 22 июн. 2020 г. в 22:39, Petr Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com>:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Cmake is installed on all agents (except 10 which is currently
>> down
>> > >>> and
>> > >>>>>>> will be updated later).
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> On 22 Jun 2020, at 21:03, Ivan Daschinsky <ivanda...@gmail.com
>> >
>> > >>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Well, patch is merged. Thank a lot to Igor Sapego for review.
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Peter, well, cmake now can be installed on all agent.
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> I think it's time to add cmake suites to runAll and exclude old
>> > >>> suites
>> > >>>>>>> from
>> > >>>>>>>> it.
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Patch with removing autotools I Will submit in few days.
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> пн, 22 июн. 2020 г., 20:25 Ivan Daschinsky <
>> ivanda...@gmail.com>:
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi folks!
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Good news -- I successfully created 2 CMake suites [1] [2] and
>> > they
>> > >>>>>>> works
>> > >>>>>>>>> as a charm.
>> > >>>>>>>>> Many thanks to Ilya Kasnacheev for giving me permissions and
>> to
>> > >>> Peter
>> > >>>>>>>>> Ivanov for installing cmake and giving a whole agent for
>> testing.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> [1] --
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>
>> >
>> https://ci.ignite.apache.org/viewType.html?buildTypeId=IgniteTests24Java8_PlatformCPPCMakeLinuxClang&branch_IgniteTests24Java8=pull%2F7854%2Fhead&tab=buildTypeStatusDiv
>> > >>>>>>>>> [2] --
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>
>> >
>> https://ci.ignite.apache.org/viewType.html?buildTypeId=IgniteTests24Java8_PlatformCPPCMakeLinux&branch_IgniteTests24Java8=pull%2F7854%2Fhead&tab=buildTypeStatusDiv
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> пн, 22 июн. 2020 г. в 12:03, Ilya Kasnacheev <
>> > >>>>>>> ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com>:
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hello!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> I think you should contact Peter Ivanov if you want anything
>> to
>> > be
>> > >>>>>>>>>> installed on agents.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>> > >>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Ilya Kasnacheev
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> пн, 22 июн. 2020 г. в 12:00, Ivan Daschinsky <
>> > ivanda...@gmail.com
>> > >>>> :
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Actually, I'm going to create 2 new suites based on existing
>> > >>> ones:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. Platform C++ CMake (Linux)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Platform C++ CMake (Linux Clang)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Ilya, thank you very much. But, despite the fact, that I
>> have
>> > >>>>>>>>>> permissions,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> it seems that it's impossible to install something (namely,
>> > >>> CMake) on
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> agents.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> How can I do this obviously essential task?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> пн, 22 июн. 2020 г. в 11:30, Ilya Kasnacheev <
>> > >>>>>>> ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> :
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I have assigned roles on TC, you can now work on these
>> builds.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Please describe your changes on development list so that
>> > people
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> understand
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what is going on.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Ilya Kasnacheev
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> вс, 21 июн. 2020 г. в 17:35, Ivan Daschinsky <
>> > >>> ivanda...@gmail.com>:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Patch is rigorously tested and with Igor Sapego help it is
>> > >>> possible
>> > >>>>>>>>>> to
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> build with cmake Ignite.C++  even on windows.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> But, it's required to make some TC suites and tune them,
>> in
>> > >>> order
>> > >>>>>>> to
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> patch
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> be merged.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, I am not a commiter and I doesn't have
>> rights
>> > to
>> > >>>>>>>>>> create
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> suites. Also, AFAIK, Igor currently is quite busy and
>> doesn't
>> > >>> have
>> > >>>>>>>>>> much
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> time to do this task by himself.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> So I need some help from community. Is it possible to
>> grant
>> > me
>> > >>> some
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> rights
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to TC agents?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ср, 3 июн. 2020 г. в 18:03, Nikolay Izhikov <
>> > >>> nizhi...@apache.org>:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will do review of this changes.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 июня 2020 г., в 13:21, Ivan Daschinsky <
>> > >>> ivanda...@gmail.com>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> написал(а):
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor, could you please check my PR?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> пт, 29 мая 2020 г. в 15:28, Ivan Daschinsky <
>> > >>>>>>>>>> ivanda...@gmail.com>:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks you all. Run patch (I've changed some code
>> also) on
>> > >>> TC
>> > >>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> all
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> CPP
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suites are green (GCC, CLang, Win64)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> пт, 29 мая 2020 г. в 15:02, Zhenya Stanilovsky
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <arzamas...@mail.ru.invalid
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan besides documentation [1]
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -s no —  no works
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- catch_system_errors =no — works properly well,
>> tests
>> > are
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> passed.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boost 1.65
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>
>> >
>> https://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_65_0/libs/test/doc/html/boost_test/utf_reference/rt_param_reference/catch_system.html
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't check tests since I don't develop AI C++,
>> > merely
>> > >>>>>>>>>> use it
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> as
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> user.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's where we should wait for Igor Sapego to check.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ilya Kasnacheev
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> пт, 29 мая 2020 г. в 12:20, Ivan Daschinsky <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> ivanda...@gmail.com
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ilya, thanks a lot! What about tests? I found one
>> flag
>> > >>> that
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> must
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> be
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supplied to boost.tests.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This flag should fix JVM crash of C++ suites on
>> Linux.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zhenya Stanilovsky and me have checked, that without
>> > this
>> > >>>>>>>>>> flag
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> tests
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failed
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with SIGSEGV early (boost catch this signal from
>> jvm,
>> > but
>> > >>>>>>>>>> it is
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ok
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jvm).
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flag is -catch_system_errors=no. I added it to CTest
>> > >>> runner.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> You
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invoke it manually and using make test ARGS="-V"
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> пт, 29 мая 2020 г. в 11:54, Ilya Kasnacheev <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com >:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks good to me! But we probably also ask Igor to
>> > take
>> > >>> a
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> look.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Compiled debug and release, without and with odbc,
>> > >>> checked
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> running
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thick
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> node and ODBC connection on Linux.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ilya Kasnacheev
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> чт, 28 мая 2020 г. в 17:31, Ivan Daschinsky <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ivanda...@gmail.com
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, PR is ready
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13078
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Build tested on Mac OS X 10.15 and Ubuntu 20.04
>> with
>> > >>> CMake
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3.17.2
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.6.1
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, I was not able to test on Windows,
>> but
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> principally
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works, but minor issues are probable.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instruction is attached in PR.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any use reports are welcomed!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> вт, 26 мая 2020 г. в 18:51, Ivan Daschinsky <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ivanda...@gmail.com
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen, looks great! I do mostly the same
>> things in
>> > >>> C++
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> code.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> вт, 26 мая 2020 г. в 18:33, Stephen Darlington <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stephen.darling...@gridgain.com >:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure if it’ll help, but I made some changes
>> to
>> > >>> get
>> > >>>>>>>>>> it
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac with the current built system. There may be
>> > some
>> > >>>>>>>>>> code
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> worth
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/4872 <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/4872 >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26 May 2020, at 16:02, Ivan Daschinsky <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ivanda...@gmail.com >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I appreciate any help, thank you, Ilya.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently I have a small PR without ticket
>> (link
>> > in
>> > >>>>>>>>>> first
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> post),but
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decided not to file a jira issue before
>> > discussion.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I see, that this feature are of great
>> interest
>> > >>> to
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a ticket, test myself on my home laptop (ubuntu
>> > >>> 20.04)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and add detailed instructions to DEVNOTES.txt
>> in a
>> > >>> few
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> days.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would be happy if my someone can follow the
>> > >>>>>>>>>> instruction
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> write
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible issues.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will notify about status update in this
>> thread
>> > in
>> > >>>>>>>>>> next
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> few
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you all very much for support!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> вт, 26 мая 2020 г. в 17:50, Ilya Kasnacheev <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will assist with checking on Linux if you
>> would
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> contribute
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please start with a ticket (or even an IEP
>> > maybe?)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ilya Kasnacheev
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> вт, 26 мая 2020 г. в 16:47, Ivan Daschinsky <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ivanda...@gmail.com
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guys, I will certainly thoroughly test my fix
>> > not
>> > >>>>>>>>>> only
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unices,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows too.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And I will describe it very thoroughly.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I was C++ developer (more than 10 years
>> > >>> ago), I
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> have
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at all with CMake and Visual Studio 2005.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything works and works good. Moreover,
>> you
>> > can
>> > >>>>>>>>>> build
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NMake,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> msbuild and generate solutions for
>> development.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose, for CI purposes, using NMake is a
>> way
>> > >>>>>>>>>> better,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vs
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solutions.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> вт, 26 мая 2020 г. в 16:42, Nikolay Izhikov <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nizhi...@apache.org
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Igor.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikolay, removing support for a certain
>> build
>> > >>>>>>>>>> system
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> is
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> a
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaking
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, it’s not.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think so?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Development environment and build system is
>> a
>> > >>>>>>>>>> subject
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can drop or add support of any build
>> system
>> > >>> any
>> > >>>>>>>>>> time
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 26 мая 2020 г., в 16:35, Ilya Kasnacheev <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> написал(а):
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't see why we can't get rid of
>> autotools
>> > >>> in a
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> minor
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provided
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that cmake actually works. Removing native
>> VS
>> > >>>>>>>>>> support
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> may
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be a
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Build system and precise set of
>> dependencies
>> > is
>> > >>>>>>>>>> not a
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part of
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> API
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my opinion.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ilya Kasnacheev
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> вт, 26 мая 2020 г. в 16:02, Igor Sapego <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isap...@apache.org >:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's start with creating a TC suite for
>> it.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only concern I have is that it is one
>> > more
>> > >>>>>>>>>> build
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to support. Should we get rid of
>> autotools in
>> > >>> 3.0?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 2:44 PM Alexey
>> > >>> Kukushkin <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kukushkinale...@gmail.com >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1. I recently completed a cross-IDE (MS
>> > >>> Visual
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Studio &
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GCC/GDB)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ignite
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C++ project and CMake in Ignite C++ would
>> > save
>> > >>>>>>>>>> me a
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> day
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> вт, 26 мая 2020 г. в 12:09, Pavel
>> Tupitsyn <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ptupit...@apache.org
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 12:02 PM Zhenya
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Stanilovsky
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < arzamas...@mail.ru.invalid > wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan huge +1 with your proposal.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had some problems with odbc tests
>> > building
>> > >>>>>>>>>> too,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looks
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmake
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make it more easy.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Igniters.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’d like to discuss porting build
>> process
>> > >>> of
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ignite.C++.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is time to change it.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Motivation*
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, it is hard to build
>> > Ignite.C++.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Different
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows and linux, lack of building
>> > support
>> > >>> on
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Mac
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> OS
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> X
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (quite
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> popular
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> among developers), absolutely not IDE
>> > >>> support,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> except
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visual Studio is supported.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Suggestion*
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’d suggest to migrate to CMake build
>> > >>> system.
>> > >>>>>>>>>> It
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> is
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> popular
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> among
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open source projects, and in Apache
>> > Software
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Notable
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Mesos, Apache Zookeeper (C
>> client
>> > >>> offers
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> CMake
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alternative
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> autoconf and only option on windows),
>> > Apache
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Kafka
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (librdkafka -
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C/C++
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> client), Apache Thrift. Popular
>> > >>> column-oriented
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> database
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ClickHouse
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uses CMake.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CMake is widely supported in many
>> IDE’s
>> > on
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> various
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platforms,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notably
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visual Studio, CLion, Xcode, QtCreator,
>> > >>>>>>>>>> KDevelop.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Current status*
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, the most of work is done
>> (see
>> > >>> [1])
>> > >>>>>>>>>> and
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tested
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS X
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10.15 (some C++ porting). All tests are
>> > run
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> without
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flaws,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> including
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> odbc (unixodbc), ssl, thin and thick
>> > client,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installation,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IDE
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integration
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (CLion). Next steps is to test linux
>> and
>> > >>>>>>>>>> windows.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But full migration isn’t possible
>> without
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> agreement
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community. Even if most of all you
>> agree,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> migration
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requires
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> efforts in TC agents tuning and so on
>> > (event
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> though
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fully
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automated by CMake CTest).
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lets discuss my proposition and idea.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] -
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/7845
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexey
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely yours, Ivan Daschinskiy
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely yours, Ivan Daschinskiy
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely yours, Ivan Daschinskiy
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely yours, Ivan Daschinskiy
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely yours, Ivan Daschinskiy
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely yours, Ivan Daschinskiy
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely yours, Ivan Daschinskiy
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely yours, Ivan Daschinskiy
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely yours, Ivan Daschinskiy
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>> Sincerely yours, Ivan Daschinskiy
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>> Sincerely yours, Ivan Daschinskiy
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> --
>> > >>>>> Sincerely yours, Ivan Daschinskiy
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Sincerely yours, Ivan Daschinskiy
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Sincerely yours, Ivan Daschinskiy
>> >
>> >
>>
>

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