Dmitry, thanks for the details.

Then I agree with the proposal of moving the tool to a separate repo and
officially discontinuing its support. The question is should we keep it in
the ASF repo or move to an independent GitHub repo and forget about it?


-
Denis


On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 4:53 AM Dmitriy Pavlov <dpav...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Igniters,
>
> Only whole project may go to the attic. Main reason of moving project to
> the attic is inactive community and less than 3 PMC members voting for new
> release.
> So attic is more about waiting for new community to resurrect project, and
> less about codebase.
>
> I suggest us, as always, create new repo and state that development of the
> module was discontinued, for now.
>
> Additionally, discontinuation is essential and really major community-wide
> decision, it requires formal vote to be run after this discussion. I'm sure
> if we build consensus in advance, here in the discussion, vote would be
> just formality, but it is still needed.
>
> Sincerely,
> Dmitriy Pavlov
>
>
> чт, 7 мая 2020 г. в 12:34, Ilya Kasnacheev <ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Hello!
> >
> > I think we should move it to a separate repository, but not Attic.
> >
> > I can see the scenario where there would be recurrence of interest to
> this
> > tool and somebody may step in to update it.
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Ilya Kasnacheev
> >
> >
> > ср, 6 мая 2020 г. в 22:20, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > Personally, I like the idea of Apache Attic [1] suggested by Saikat. We
> > are
> > > not discontinuing Ignite WebConsole because it became useless like it
> was
> > > with Hadoop Accelerator. The tool has good capabilities such as the
> > > configuration wizard, and the only problem is that we no longer want to
> > > support or maintain this technology (while it has the right to exist).
> > >
> > > Is anybody interested in figuring out with the ASF-mates if Ignite
> > > WebConsole can be accepted to Attic? The Attic's guidelines talk about
> an
> > > ASF project as a whole and not about individual components.
> > >
> > > [1] https://attic.apache.org
> > >
> > > -
> > > Denis
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 7:20 AM Вячеслав Коптилин <
> > slava.kopti...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > +1 to remove this component or move it to a separate repository if
> > > someone
> > > > wants to maintain it.
> > > > In case the web console provides useful features, we should consider
> > how
> > > to
> > > > add them to our command-line utilities, if possible.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Slava.
> > > >
> > > > ср, 6 мая 2020 г. в 16:10, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello.
> > > > >
> > > > > +1 to remove any graphical utilities from the Ignite core.
> > > > > I think we should maintain and support only cmd, JMX, and other
> > «core»
> > > > > tools.
> > > > >
> > > > > We shouldn't waste our resources on supporting pretty looking UI
> > tools.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > 2 мая 2020 г., в 04:05, Saikat Maitra <saikat.mai...@gmail.com>
> > > > > написал(а):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Denis,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am thinking if we should move web-console to a separate repo
> like
> > > > > > ignite-web-console. In my opinion the tech stack we have in
> > > web-console
> > > > > > like npm, nodejs and Mondodb etc are little different and can be
> > > hosted
> > > > > as
> > > > > > a separate project in a git repo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I had used web-console for streamers project and found it helpful
> > in
> > > > > > creating table schema and execute sql queries and also to do
> cache
> > > > > lookup.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://github.com/samaitra/streamers
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If we continue to find that usage of ignite-web-console is
> limited
> > > then
> > > > > we
> > > > > > can plan moving ignite-web-console in Apache Attic
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://attic.apache.org/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please let me know your thoughts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Saikat
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 12:43 PM Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Igniters,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I would like to hear your opinion on what we should do with
> Ignite
> > > > > >> WebConsole.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> To my knowledge, we don't have active maintainers of the
> > component,
> > > > and
> > > > > a
> > > > > >> list of issues is piling up [1]. Users even report that the
> docker
> > > > > images
> > > > > >> have not been updated for more than a year [2].
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Personally, I share the opinion of those who believe the
> community
> > > > > needs to
> > > > > >> provide and support all the essential tooling (metrics and
> tracing
> > > > API,
> > > > > >> command-line tool) while the UI tools are not our business.
> There
> > > is a
> > > > > >> myriad of UI tools Ignite can be monitored and traced with.
> Users
> > > > > already
> > > > > >> have plenty of choices.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> What are your thoughts? Probably, some of you want to become
> > > > > maintainers of
> > > > > >> the component. Otherwise, we should let the tool go.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> [1]
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12923?jql=project%20%3D%20IGNITE%20AND%20text%20~%20%22web%20console%22%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20and%20type%20%3D%20Bug%20ORDER%20BY%20createdDate%20
> > > > > >> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12923
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> -
> > > > > >> Denis
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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