Dmitry, thanks for the details. Then I agree with the proposal of moving the tool to a separate repo and officially discontinuing its support. The question is should we keep it in the ASF repo or move to an independent GitHub repo and forget about it?
- Denis On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 4:53 AM Dmitriy Pavlov <dpav...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi Igniters, > > Only whole project may go to the attic. Main reason of moving project to > the attic is inactive community and less than 3 PMC members voting for new > release. > So attic is more about waiting for new community to resurrect project, and > less about codebase. > > I suggest us, as always, create new repo and state that development of the > module was discontinued, for now. > > Additionally, discontinuation is essential and really major community-wide > decision, it requires formal vote to be run after this discussion. I'm sure > if we build consensus in advance, here in the discussion, vote would be > just formality, but it is still needed. > > Sincerely, > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > чт, 7 мая 2020 г. в 12:34, Ilya Kasnacheev <ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com>: > > > Hello! > > > > I think we should move it to a separate repository, but not Attic. > > > > I can see the scenario where there would be recurrence of interest to > this > > tool and somebody may step in to update it. > > > > Regards, > > -- > > Ilya Kasnacheev > > > > > > ср, 6 мая 2020 г. в 22:20, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>: > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > Personally, I like the idea of Apache Attic [1] suggested by Saikat. We > > are > > > not discontinuing Ignite WebConsole because it became useless like it > was > > > with Hadoop Accelerator. The tool has good capabilities such as the > > > configuration wizard, and the only problem is that we no longer want to > > > support or maintain this technology (while it has the right to exist). > > > > > > Is anybody interested in figuring out with the ASF-mates if Ignite > > > WebConsole can be accepted to Attic? The Attic's guidelines talk about > an > > > ASF project as a whole and not about individual components. > > > > > > [1] https://attic.apache.org > > > > > > - > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 7:20 AM Вячеслав Коптилин < > > slava.kopti...@gmail.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > +1 to remove this component or move it to a separate repository if > > > someone > > > > wants to maintain it. > > > > In case the web console provides useful features, we should consider > > how > > > to > > > > add them to our command-line utilities, if possible. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Slava. > > > > > > > > ср, 6 мая 2020 г. в 16:10, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > Hello. > > > > > > > > > > +1 to remove any graphical utilities from the Ignite core. > > > > > I think we should maintain and support only cmd, JMX, and other > > «core» > > > > > tools. > > > > > > > > > > We shouldn't waste our resources on supporting pretty looking UI > > tools. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 мая 2020 г., в 04:05, Saikat Maitra <saikat.mai...@gmail.com> > > > > > написал(а): > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Denis, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am thinking if we should move web-console to a separate repo > like > > > > > > ignite-web-console. In my opinion the tech stack we have in > > > web-console > > > > > > like npm, nodejs and Mondodb etc are little different and can be > > > hosted > > > > > as > > > > > > a separate project in a git repo. > > > > > > > > > > > > I had used web-console for streamers project and found it helpful > > in > > > > > > creating table schema and execute sql queries and also to do > cache > > > > > lookup. > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/samaitra/streamers > > > > > > > > > > > > If we continue to find that usage of ignite-web-console is > limited > > > then > > > > > we > > > > > > can plan moving ignite-web-console in Apache Attic > > > > > > > > > > > > https://attic.apache.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know your thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Saikat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 12:43 PM Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Igniters, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I would like to hear your opinion on what we should do with > Ignite > > > > > >> WebConsole. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> To my knowledge, we don't have active maintainers of the > > component, > > > > and > > > > > a > > > > > >> list of issues is piling up [1]. Users even report that the > docker > > > > > images > > > > > >> have not been updated for more than a year [2]. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Personally, I share the opinion of those who believe the > community > > > > > needs to > > > > > >> provide and support all the essential tooling (metrics and > tracing > > > > API, > > > > > >> command-line tool) while the UI tools are not our business. > There > > > is a > > > > > >> myriad of UI tools Ignite can be monitored and traced with. > Users > > > > > already > > > > > >> have plenty of choices. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> What are your thoughts? Probably, some of you want to become > > > > > maintainers of > > > > > >> the component. Otherwise, we should let the tool go. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> [1] > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12923?jql=project%20%3D%20IGNITE%20AND%20text%20~%20%22web%20console%22%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20and%20type%20%3D%20Bug%20ORDER%20BY%20createdDate%20 > > > > > >> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12923 > > > > > >> > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> Denis > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >