Hello!

Why would it waste additional memory? All nodes are also Java nodes so they
will start near caches all right.

Don't we have near cache start-up on per-node basis for clients, anyway?

I'm not convinced why we need this flag. I have to admit my understanding
of near caches is limited.

Regards,
-- 
Ilya Kasnacheev


вт, 18 февр. 2020 г. в 16:56, Pavel Tupitsyn <ptupit...@apache.org>:

> Ilya, Aleksandr,
>
> The flag is called platformNearCacheEnabled, my idea is to have just one
> flag for all platforms.
>
> If some platform is present on the given node (.NET, C++) and it supports
> native near caching,
> then the flag is honored, otherwise it is ignored. We should not throw
> exceptions,
> because mixed clusters are possible (.NET nodes along with Java nodes).
>
> > Why would enabling it affect mixed clusters?
> Initially the idea was to enable .NET near cache whenever
> NearCacheConfiguration is present.
> If we assume .NET-only clusters, it makes sense: existing code will work
> faster automatically.
>
> Mixed cluster is just one of the possible use cases when this may be a bad
> idea,
> e.g. users have enabled near caching to speed up their Java-based
> computations,
> and .NET nodes are used for something else, wasting memory on near caching
> unnecessarily.
>
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 4:30 PM Aleksandr Shapkin <lexw...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Pavel,
> >
> >
> >
> > I think it’s ok to add a new flag.
> >
> > Though we may change a name to something like
> #usePlatformCacheIfAvailable
> >
> >
> >
> > But it may vary depending on the implementation, i.e.
> >
> > should we throw an error if there is no native cache
> >
> > available for a platform or just ignore the configuration.
> >
> > вт, 18 февр. 2020 г. в 15:05, Pavel Tupitsyn <ptupit...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > Igor,
> > >
> > > The problem is - we need to pass this flag around the cluster for
> Server
> > > Near Caches,
> > > so that .NET near caches are started accordingly.
> > >
> > > There are 2 kinds of Near Caches:
> > > - On client nodes: created on every client node separately by calling
> > > ignite.CreateNearCache
> > > - On server nodes: created on all server nodes if
> > > CacheConfiguration.NearCacheConfiguration is set
> > >
> > > When user says ignite.CreateCache(new CacheConfiguration
> > > {NearCacheConfiguration = ...}),
> > > the whole config is sent to all server nodes, and .NET-specific flag
> has
> > to
> > > be included somehow.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 2:59 PM Igor Sapego <isap...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Do you suggest to introduce it in general configuration? Why not
> > > introduce
> > > > it only on platform side? Is there any .NET-specific configuration?
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Igor
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 1:10 AM Pavel Tupitsyn <ptupit...@apache.org
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Igniters,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm working on .NET Near Cache feature [1]
> > > > > (storing deserialized cache entries in CLR memory to improve
> > > > performance).
> > > > >
> > > > > Implementation is based on Java near cache, with some callbacks to
> > .NET
> > > > > side
> > > > > for updating and invalidating cached entries.
> > > > >
> > > > > However, I'd like to make this feature optional: enabling Java near
> > > cache
> > > > > should not
> > > > > always enable .NET near cache - some users may have mixed clusters,
> > > etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Therefore I'm adding
> NearCacheConfiguration#platformNearCacheEnabled
> > > > > boolean flag.
> > > > > Are there any objections or better ideas to configure this
> behavior?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Pavel
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12691
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Alex.
> >
>

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