Hi Vladimir,

> if you have only persistent caches, no warning/confirmation is supposed
at all.
I am talking about MIXED cluster with persistent cache and *in-memory*
cache which is backed by *3-rd party persistence*.

> I’m afraid this won’t stop anyone from using old deprecated
IgniteMXBean#active(boolean)
That is why I do not like to expose such functionality through JMX.

Thanks,
S.

пт, 14 февр. 2020 г. в 18:02, Vladimir Steshin <vlads...@gmail.com>:

>  Vyacheslav,
>
> >>> Let's assume that I have a mixed cluster with persistent cache and
> in-memory cache which is backed by 3-rd party persistence. I see no reason
> to throw an exception in that case at least.
>
>
>
> if you have only persistent caches, no warning/confirmation is supposed at
> all.
>
>
>
> >>> Is it possible to
> add new methods as follows: activateCluster()/deactivateCluster() and
> deprecate IgniteMXBean#active(boolean)?
>
>
>
> I’m afraid this won’t stop anyone from using old deprecated
> IgniteMXBean#active(boolean).
> It is quite obvious to execute through JMX despite it is deprecated.
>
> пт, 14 февр. 2020 г. в 17:36, Вячеслав Коптилин <slava.kopti...@gmail.com
> >:
>
> > Hello Nikolay,
> >
> > > Should public java API continue to silently clear in-memory caches?
> > Let's assume that I have a mixed cluster with persistent cache and
> > in-memory cache which is backed by 3-rd party persistence. I see no
> reason
> > to throw an exception in that case at least.
> > Anyway, this fact should be clearly stated in the Javadoc and
> documentation
> > of course.
> >
> > > What is your suggestion for the API?
> > I think we are talking about JMX methods. Am I correct? Is it possible to
> > add new methods as follows: activateCluster()/deactivateCluster() and
> > deprecate IgniteMXBean#active(boolean)?
> > Does this make sense? Am I missing something?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > S.
> >
> > пт, 14 февр. 2020 г. в 16:17, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > Vyacheslav.
> > >
> > > What is your suggestion for the API?
> > >
> > > Single implementation for both Ignite#active(boolean) and
> > > IgniteMXBean#active(boolean)
> > > Should public java API continue to silently clears in-memory caches?
> > >
> > >
> > > > 14 февр. 2020 г., в 15:56, Вячеслав Коптилин <
> slava.kopti...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > написал(а):
> > > >
> > > > Hello Vladimir,
> > > >
> > > >> adding a new method with force flag means old methods change their
> > > > behavior:
> > > > I don't think that changing the behavior of public API is the right
> > way.
> > > > Moreover, I agree with Alex that there is no need to introduce a
> > > > "confirmation" flag to the java API.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > S.
> > > >
> > > > пт, 14 февр. 2020 г. в 15:38, Vladimir Steshin <vlads...@gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > >> Alexey, adding a new method with force flag means old methods change
> > > their
> > > >> behavior: they are considered as executed without ‘force‘ flag and
> can
> > > fail
> > > >> to prevent data loss. Ignite and IgniteMXBean are different
> > interfaces.
> > > >> Unfortunately, they have same method
> > > >>
> > > >> void  active(boolean active)
> > > >>
> > > >> When executed as IgniteMXBean it should fail if user can lose data.
> > When
> > > >> executed from code via interface Ignite probably not. To solve this
> I
> > > >> suggest to add ‘force’ flag for every deactivation mode:
> CLI/JMX/REST
> > > and
> > > >> other API.
> > > >>
> > > >> пт, 14 февр. 2020 г. в 15:20, Alexey Goncharuk <
> > > alexey.goncha...@gmail.com
> > > >>> :
> > > >>
> > > >>> Igniters,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Do we really need the confirmation flag on the public API? I
> > absolutely
> > > >>> agree on the CLI and MXBean, but what is the reason for the flag in
> > the
> > > >>> API? It will be specified at the compile time anyway and does not
> > > prevent
> > > >>> any user error.
> > > >>> From the implementation point of view I see no contradiction - we
> can
> > > add
> > > >>> the new method to the MXBean, but nothing forces us to add it to
> > Ignite
> > > >>> interface - those interfaces are not related.
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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