Hello Ilya,

Thank you for your email. Yes, before we remove any integration we will
move them to another repository and release.

We are thinking we will start with Pub/Sub Streamer implementation and
continue to move other integration as mentioned in the following doc.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/IEP-36%3A+Modularization#IEP-36:Modularization-IndependentIntegrations

Regards,
Saikat


On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:00 AM Ilya Kasnacheev <ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello!
>
> My take on this: we want to offload some of integrations, but please commit
> and release them to another project first, and only then we will decide to
> remove them from our repository.
>
> Please also make sure they are available with same artifact name and API.
> If this has to be changed, let's wait for AI 3.0
>
> Regards,
> --
> Ilya Kasnacheev
>
>
> ср, 23 окт. 2019 г. в 03:23, Saikat Maitra <saikat.mai...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Hello Emmanouil,
> >
> > As discussed earlier, I discussed with Apache Bahir community and they
> are
> > interested to have Apache Ignite extensions as part of Apache Bahir
> > project.
> >
> > Can you please share Pub/Sub streamer implementation details with Apache
> > Bahir community and request for feedback.
> >
> > https://bahir.apache.org/
> >
> > I have also requested for contributor access in Jira for Apache Bahir
> > project so that I can create issues and assign to myself.
> >
> > I can help with code reviews as well.
> >
> > Here is the email thread for reference
> > https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@bahir.apache.org/msg02703.html
> >
> > Regards,
> > Saikat
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 7:54 PM Saikat Maitra <saikat.mai...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > As discussed I have created following discussion threads on our
> migration
> > > proposals for Apache Ignite extensions:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://apache-ignite-users.70518.x6.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Proposal-for-Ignite-Extensions-as-a-separate-Bahir-module-or-Incubator-project-td29829.html
> > >
> > > https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@bahir.apache.org/msg02703.html
> > >
> > > I will share update as I hear more information.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Saikat
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:03 PM Saikat Maitra <saikat.mai...@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello Denis,
> > >>
> > >> Sure, sounds good. I will create a separate discussion thread to get
> > >> community feedback on whether we
> > >> should join the Bahir or kick-off "Ignite Extensions" project.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Saikat
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 2:21 PM Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Folks,
> > >>>
> > >>> The concept of Apache Bahir is precisely what we need! Saikat, thanks
> > for
> > >>> doing the research. Why I believe the * idea* fits us well:
> > >>>
> > >>>    - All integrations can be stored in separate Github repositories
> and
> > >>>    have their dev lifecycles. We've not obliged to couple all the
> > >>> integrations
> > >>>    in a single repo. For instance, Spark can be located in a
> dedicated
> > >>> repo
> > >>>    while streaming integrations might be in a single one. It's up to
> > us.
> > >>>    - All the repositories and integrations belong to ASF. We're not
> > >>> dumping
> > >>>    them on Github but rather keep supporting and developing in
> > >>> accordance with
> > >>>    ASF vision and practices.
> > >>>    - There is a way to reward contributors via committership and PMC
> > >>>    membership. You won't get this if a project is just one of the
> > >>> millions of
> > >>>    Github projects.
> > >>>
> > >>> Saikat, as Ignite PMC member, could you please kick-off a separate
> > >>> dev-list
> > >>> discussion to involve more community members and referring to this
> > >>> thread?
> > >>> I think the primary question the community needs to answer whether we
> > >>> should join the Bahir or kick-off "Ignite Extensions" project?
> > >>>
> > >>> -
> > >>> Denis
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 2:54 AM Alexey Zinoviev <
> > zaleslaw....@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > Maybe we could move all our Streaming Integrations there, but what
> is
> > >>> about
> > >>> > maintaining and committer permissions to the new repositories?
> > >>> > I see the list of the committers and PMC members there
> > >>> > https://bahir.apache.org/community-members/
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Could somebody from Ignite community be added to this list as a
> > >>> > PMC/committer to maintain Ignite integrations?
> > >>> > If yes, I'd happy to join this project and collaborate with these
> > guys
> > >>> > together
> > >>> > If no, and we should start from the zero level with external PRs -
> > >>> hmmm,
> > >>> > it's better to have our own external repository with ApacheBahirr
> > >>> ideology.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Also, I agree, that all connectors could be moved there (in
> > >>> ApacheBahirr
> > >>> > like repository), but not all modules from the page
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/IEP-36%3A+Modularization#IEP-36:Modularization-IndependentIntegrations
> > >>> > because
> > >>> > they use different parts of core modules and could be developed
> with
> > >>> > different velocity.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > In reality, before creation of new repositories we need wide
> > discussion
> > >>> > based on the document mentioned above.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > P.S. Of course, we could experiment in the next release 2.8 with
> one
> > >>> or two
> > >>> > integrations like twitter or ZeroMQ
> > >>> > Also, I'd like Denis Magda idea for the separate repositories in
> > Apache
> > >>> > Github to maintain them by anybody.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > чт, 17 окт. 2019 г. в 05:02, Saikat Maitra <
> saikat.mai...@gmail.com
> > >:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > Hi Denis, Emmanouil
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Thank you for your email. I think creating a separate integration
> > >>> project
> > >>> > > in github and also proposing it as an apache incubator project
> will
> > >>> be a
> > >>> > > good move. The other separate integration modules
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/IEP-36%3A+Modularization#IEP-36:Modularization-IndependentIntegrations
> > >>> > > can
> > >>> > > be moved to this new apache incubator project.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > There are similar integration available for Flink and Spark in
> > Apache
> > >>> > Bahir
> > >>> > > https://bahir.apache.org/
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Do you think we should reach out to Apache Bahir community with a
> > >>> > proposal
> > >>> > > or we should plan to create a separate Apache Incubator project?
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Regards,
> > >>> > > Saikat
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 6:21 AM Emmanouil Gkatziouras <
> > >>> > > gkatzio...@gmail.com>
> > >>> > > wrote:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > > Hi all!
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Based on the discussions most probably this is going to be on
> > >>> another
> > >>> > > > GitHub repo. Therefore I will prepare a standalone project with
> > the
> > >>> > > Pub/Sub
> > >>> > > > module and once the repository is created a pull request shall
> be
> > >>> > issued.
> > >>> > > > If there is anything else I can do in order to facilitate this
> > >>> please
> > >>> > let
> > >>> > > > me know.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > If a ticket is created for this issue, I shall be able to
> create
> > a
> > >>> pull
> > >>> > > > request and thus a build will take place on ignite's CI.
> > >>> > > > If everyone is aligned with adding a Pub/Sub implementation
> may I
> > >>> > create
> > >>> > > a
> > >>> > > > ticket on JIRA?
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > My next question has to do on how Ignite configures the build
> > jobs
> > >>> in
> > >>> > > Team
> > >>> > > > City. The unit tests for my implementation need a local Pub/Sub
> > >>> server
> > >>> > up
> > >>> > > > and running (they provide one for testing purposes). Will this
> > take
> > >>> > > effect
> > >>> > > > in a form of a build script inside my implementation or is it
> > >>> something
> > >>> > > > that should be configured on Team City?
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Kind regards,
> > >>> > > > Emmanouil
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > *Emmanouil Gkatziouras*
> > >>> > > > https://egkatzioura.com/ |
> > >>> > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/gkatziourasemmanouil/
> > >>> > > > https://github.com/gkatzioura
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 23:27, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > > Emmanouil, Saikat,
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > After contemplating on this, let me propose another way with
> > this
> > >>> > > > > particular integration that is aligned with our
> modularization
> > >>> > > endeavor.
> > >>> > > > > The modularization [1] defines the Ignite core, Ignite
> modules,
> > >>> and
> > >>> > > > > independent integrations. The first two are to be located in
> > >>> Ignite
> > >>> > > > > repositories and to be tested/updated by the community for
> > every
> > >>> > > release.
> > >>> > > > > The modules are a subset of existing integrations that are
> > >>> adopted
> > >>> > > widely
> > >>> > > > > and require community attention.
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > As for the independent integrations [1], those are supposed
> to
> > be
> > >>> > > located
> > >>> > > > > in a separate GitHub repo. I would advise us to start
> > >>> implementing
> > >>> > this
> > >>> > > > > concept with the Pub/Sub integration. Even though it will be
> > >>> located
> > >>> > > in a
> > >>> > > > > separate Github repo, it will be listed among officially
> > >>> available
> > >>> > > > > integrations on the Ignite website featuring Emmanouil as a
> > >>> > > contributor.
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > What do you think?
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > [1]
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/IEP-36%3A+Modularization#IEP-36:Modularization-IndependentIntegrations
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > -
> > >>> > > > > Denis
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 9:47 PM Saikat Maitra <
> > >>> > saikat.mai...@gmail.com
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > Hi Emmanouil,
> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > The changes looks good to me. I wanted to check if you are
> > also
> > >>> > able
> > >>> > > to
> > >>> > > > > > validate that the once data is added to Ignite cluster you
> > are
> > >>> also
> > >>> > > > able
> > >>> > > > > to
> > >>> > > > > > access it using another Ignite client or using rest
> > endpoints.
> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > We use Teamcity for CI process, the details are as follows
> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > Trigger validation of those test suites that have been
> > >>> affected by
> > >>> > > your
> > >>> > > > > > changes on TeamCity <http://ci.ignite.apache.org/>: <
> > >>> > > > > http://204.14.53.153/
> > >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > >    - Locate a test suite you have to check, press button
> > named
> > >>> > "..."
> > >>> > > > that
> > >>> > > > > >    is located on the left of "Run" button. "Run custom
> build"
> > >>> > dialog
> > >>> > > > will
> > >>> > > > > >    appear;
> > >>> > > > > >    - Go to "Changes" tab and choose
> > >>> > "pull/<pull-request-number>/head"
> > >>> > > > in
> > >>> > > > > >    "Build branch" dropdown list;
> > >>> > > > > >    - Press "Run build" button and monitor tests results.
> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > @Roman rsht...@yahoo.com - can you also please take a
> look?
> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > Regards,
> > >>> > > > > > Saikat
> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 6:20 PM Emmanouil Gkatziouras <
> > >>> > > > > > gkatzio...@gmail.com>
> > >>> > > > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > Hi @Saikat Maitra
> > >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > I have my implementation on an Ignite fork on my personal
> > >>> GitHub
> > >>> > > > > account
> > >>> > > > > > > [1]
> > >>> > > > > > > It is based on the Kafka implementation which is of a
> > polling
> > >>> > > nature.
> > >>> > > > > > > GCP does not provide a service like Kafka. Instead it
> > >>> provides us
> > >>> > > > with
> > >>> > > > > > > Pub/Sub which is just like Kafka.
> > >>> > > > > > > Therefore using the Kafka streamer as a guideline made
> more
> > >>> sense
> > >>> > > to
> > >>> > > > > me.
> > >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > Apart from the implementation I have also added a unit
> > test.
> > >>> > > > > > > It definitely needs some polishing and a double check on
> my
> > >>> side
> > >>> > to
> > >>> > > > > make
> > >>> > > > > > > the review smooth.
> > >>> > > > > > > For the tests a local Pub/Sub [2] server has to be setup
> > >>> however
> > >>> > I
> > >>> > > am
> > >>> > > > > not
> > >>> > > > > > > sure which is the best way to do so with regards to your
> > >>> CI/CD.
> > >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > [1]
> > >>> > > https://github.com/gkatzioura/ignite/tree/pubsub/modules/pubsub
> > >>> > > > > > > [2]
> > >>> https://egkatzioura.com/2019/09/22/pub-sub-local-emulator/
> > >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > *Emmanouil Gkatziouras*
> > >>> > > > > > > https://egkatzioura.com/ |
> > >>> > > > > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/gkatziourasemmanouil/
> > >>> > > > > > > https://github.com/gkatzioura
> > >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 02:11, Saikat Maitra <
> > >>> > > saikat.mai...@gmail.com
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > Hello Emmanouil,
> > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > Can you please share more info about the
> implementation?
> > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > We have similar implementation for data streamers with
> > >>> Kafka
> > >>> > and
> > >>> > > > > > RocketMQ
> > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > https://apacheignite-mix.readme.io/docs/kafka-streamer
> > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > >
> > https://apacheignite-mix.readme.io/docs/rocketmq-streamer
> > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > Please review and share if you have any questions.
> > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > >>> > > > > > > > Saikat
> > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 4:56 PM Emmanouil Gkatziouras <
> > >>> > > > > > > > gkatzio...@gmail.com>
> > >>> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > By mentioning Pub/Sub I mean Google Cloud's Pub/Sub
> [1]
> > >>> > > > > > > > > Yes it is indeed cloud specific. It is the messaging
> > >>> service
> > >>> > > > > provided
> > >>> > > > > > > by
> > >>> > > > > > > > > GCP.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > I have made the integration with it, but I haven't
> > >>> published
> > >>> > it
> > >>> > > > yet
> > >>> > > > > > (I
> > >>> > > > > > > am
> > >>> > > > > > > > > waiting for the discussion/ticket and proceed with
> the
> > >>> > > > > contribution).
> > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > Kind regards,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > Emmanouil
> > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > [1] https://cloud.google.com/pubsub/docs/overview
> > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > *Emmanouil Gkatziouras*
> > >>> > > > > > > > > https://egkatzioura.com/ |
> > >>> > > > > > > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/gkatziourasemmanouil/
> > >>> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/gkatzioura
> > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 21:45, Denis Magda <
> > >>> dma...@apache.org
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > Hello Emmanouil,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > Are you referring to any specific implementation
> > >>> tailored
> > >>> > > for a
> > >>> > > > > > > cloud?
> > >>> > > > > > > > If
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > I'm not mistaken you were mentioning AWS/GCE. Is
> > there
> > >>> any
> > >>> > > > Github
> > >>> > > > > > > > source
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > code?
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > Here is a list of existing integrations with
> > streaming
> > >>> and
> > >>> > > > > pub/sub
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > frameworks:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > https://apacheignite-mix.readme.io/docs/overview
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > with the source code in Ignite master:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> https://github.com/apache/ignite/tree/master/modules
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > Check out those resources to see what are the most
> > >>> suitable
> > >>> > > > > Ignite
> > >>> > > > > > > APIs
> > >>> > > > > > > > > for
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > such integrations.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > @Saikat Maitra <saikat.mai...@gmail.com> , @Roman
> <
> > >>> > > > > > rsht...@yahoo.com
> > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > ,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > as
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > streaming technologies contributors/maintainers,
> > could
> > >>> you
> > >>> > > > please
> > >>> > > > > > > join
> > >>> > > > > > > > > this
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > thread?
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > -
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > Denis
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 7:58 AM Emmanouil
> > Gkatziouras <
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > gkatzio...@gmail.com>
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > I started using Ignite lately. Part of my work
> > >>> involves
> > >>> > > > > Pub/Sub,
> > >>> > > > > > > > thus I
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > created a pub/sub streamer.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Pub/Sub is pretty close to Kafka.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Here's how the streamer works. Every node creates
> > an
> > >>> > > instance
> > >>> > > > > of
> > >>> > > > > > a
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > Pub/Sub
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > client.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > The clients subscribe to the same topic using the
> > >>> same
> > >>> > > > > > subscription
> > >>> > > > > > > > > name.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > A message is being sent and one of the nodes will
> > >>> receive
> > >>> > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > > message,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > process it and then forward it to Ignite using
> the
> > >>> > > extractor
> > >>> > > > > > > > provided.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts?
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > *Emmanouil Gkatziouras*
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > https://egkatzioura.com/ |
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/gkatziourasemmanouil/
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/gkatzioura
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
>

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