Log directory is directly at /var/log/apache-ignite and mapped via symlink to 
/var/lib/apache-ignite/log because /var/lib/apache-ignite/ (main work dir which 
in its turn is mapped via symlink to /usr/share/apache—ignite/work) is the 
place where running node of Apache Ignite will write it’s logs.



> On 4 Jun 2018, at 16:56, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Petr!
> 
> I think the log directory should be at /var/log, not /var/lib, right?
> 
> D.
> 
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 5:04 AM, Petr Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Dmitriy,
>> 
>> 
>> I’ve added requested information (see [1]).
>> Can you check that this information is enough, please?
>> 
>> 
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8671?focusedCom
>> mentId=16500123&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.
>> issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16500123
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 Jun 2018, at 10:24, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Peter,
>>> 
>>> I think what is really missing is the installation structure, i.e. where
>> is
>>> the bin, config, lib, work folders. Is IGNITE_HOME pointing somewhere as
>> a
>>> result of the installation? I think, if you explain it to users, there
>> will
>>> be more understanding from the user stand point.
>>> 
>>> Can you please add that?
>>> 
>>> D.
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Petr Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dmitriy,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I've added warning snippet in the bottom of the Alternative Installation
>>>> Options section with reference on how to start Apache Ignite installed
>> from
>>>> RPM or DEB packages as standalone Java application (see [1]).
>>>> Hope it will be enough.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8671?
>>>> focusedCommentId=16499157&page=com.atlassian.jira.
>>>> plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16499157
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 Jun 2018, at 21:57, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peter,
>>>>> 
>>>>> We cannot have a distribution that works sometimes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think you should read the ticket carefully. I don't beleive we need
>> to
>>>>> make any changes to the release, it is a matter of fixing the
>>>>> documentation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can you confirm this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> D.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 2, 2018 11:44, "Peter Ivanov" <mr.wei...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dmitriy,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> You suggest removing fully working under corresponding Linux
>> distributive
>>>>> RPM and DEB packages entirely from apache.org/dist/ignite only because
>>>> they
>>>>> do not work in highly unlikely scenario (Windows 10 WSL) as service?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I will certainly add reference about running Apache Ignite from the
>>>>> packages as standalone Java application (with corresponding permissions
>>>>> note) but I’d like to hear community opinion on the whole matter -
>>>>> everything that was done, was done with review and approve from lots of
>>>>> Apache Ignite commiters and PMCs, including PMC chair.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 at 16:12, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have reopened this ticket:
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8671
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I changed the priority to blocker. At this point I suggest the
>>>> following:
>>>>>> - we either remove the DEB and RPM packages from the website and
>> readme
>>>>>> - or we fix this issue ASAP as stated in the ticket.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I will leave it up to you to decide.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> D.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 10:31 PM, Peter Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dmitriy,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> SystemD supports running multiple instances of one service – this is
>>>> done
>>>>>>> through @-like syntax: 'sudo systemctl start apache-ignite@
>>>> <configuration
>>>>>>> file name>', so that with every unique command string there will be
>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>> / stopped unique instance of Apache Ignite. And all instances can be
>>>>>>> restarted / stopped / enabled on boot / etc. simultaneously through
>>>> 'sudo
>>>>>>> systemctl <command> apache-ignite@*'.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Still, I can add a note about possibility of starting Apache Ignite
>>>>>>> manually through ignite.sh with a reference to corresponding
>>>>> documentation
>>>>>>> section, information where to look for the root of Apache Ignite
>>>>>>> installation and how to correctly start Apache Ignite in terms of
>>>>>>> permissions.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> File the documentation updates ticket?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 at 01:10, Dmitriy Setrakyan <
>> dsetrak...@apache.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Petr,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Most of the users will download and install Ignite so they can
>> develop
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> it. This means that they will be starting more than one node, which
>> is
>>>>>>>> impossible if Ignite is a service. We should provide instructions to
>>>> do
>>>>>>>> both.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> D.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Peter Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Dmitriy,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Current packages design (both RPM and DEB) was reviewed and
>> approved
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>> community. I do not quite remember why service-based startup was
>>>>>>> chosen
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> it seems rather logical and Unix-compliant – under Linux almost
>> every
>>>>>>>>> service software is packed this way, which gives some benefits like
>>>>>>>> service
>>>>>>>>> autostart on reboot, centralized running nodes management (through
>>>>>>>>> systemctl), etc. There is no point in packing binary into Linux
>>>>>>> packages
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> it then will be used as standalone executable.
>>>>>>>>> Yet, current design does not limit advanced user from running
>> Apache
>>>>>>>> Ignite
>>>>>>>>> as standalone process – executing
>>>>>>> /usr/share/apache-ignite/bin/ignite.sh
>>>>>>>>> with parameters will start Apache Ignite node as if it was
>> delivered
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>> binary archive.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 31 May 2018 at 20:43, Dmitriy Setrakyan <
>>>>>>> dsetrak...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Petr,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Why do we even suggest starting Ignite as a service? Why not just
>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>> Ignite instance as a stand-alone process? This should work, no?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> D.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Petr Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, it seems to be impossible (at least for now) —
>>>>> [1].
>>>>>>>>>>> So we can say that current package design is for native Linux
>>>>>>>>>> installation
>>>>>>>>>>> only.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8671?
>>>>>>>>>>> focusedCommentId=16496813&page=com.atlassian.jira.
>>>>>>>>>>> plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16496813
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 31 May 2018, at 18:22, Petr Ivanov <mr.wei...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8671 <
>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8671>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 31 May 2018, at 17:56, Dmitriy Setrakyan <
>>>>>>>> dsetrak...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:dsetrak...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Petr Ivanov <
>>>>>>> mr.wei...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mr.wei...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll start the investigation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you please file a ticket so we can track it?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 

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