I like the idea of having PersistentMemoryPolicy configuration class.
Vladimir, Yakov, any objections?

2017-09-13 3:05 GMT+03:00 Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>:

> I would go for PersistentMemoryPolicyConfiguration way if it will be
> expanded by storage related settings furthers.
>
> For instance, from the discussion on @user I see a raising demand for the
> storage maximum size. If it’s reached the data will be evicted from there
> too. Just as an example.
>
> —
> Denis
>
> > On Sep 12, 2017, at 2:01 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > To extend on the idea of 2 different policies for memory and persistence,
> > can we have 2 completely different configuration classes?
> >
> > - MemoryPolicy
> > - PersistentMemoryPolicy (extends MemoryPolicy?)
> >
> > Every cache should be associated with either MemoryPolicy or
> > PersistentMemoryPolicy, but not both. By default, caches on startup are
> > associated with default MemoryPolicy. Users can always change it to some
> > PersistentMemoryPolicy, if persistence needs to be enabled.
> >
> > If we agree on the above, do we really need a persistenceEnabled flag at
> > all?
> >
> > D.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 2:57 AM, Alexey Goncharuk <
> > alexey.goncha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> We surely can, but:
> >> * we should then have two configuration settings for default memory
> policy
> >> size (one in-memory and one persisted)
> >> * a user still may configure multiple custom memory policies. In this
> >> case, the requirement to have this flag the same in a memory policy is
> >> still valid, so a user still can get exceptions.
> >>
> >> 2017-09-12 12:44 GMT+03:00 Vladimir Ozerov <voze...@gridgain.com>:
> >>
> >>> Alex,
> >>>
> >>> Can we have two default memory policies - one for in-memory and another
> >> one
> >>> for persistence cases?
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Alexey Goncharuk <
> >>> alexey.goncha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> This is possible, but then if two caches belong to the same memory
> >>> policy,
> >>>> they must be both either persistence-enabled or persistence-disabled.
> >> We
> >>>> can add this validation, but I think this will lead to a greater
> >>> confusion
> >>>> for a user.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2017-09-12 12:34 GMT+03:00 Pavel Tupitsyn <ptupit...@apache.org>:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Agree with Vladimir.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Currently we enable persistence cluster-wide by setting
> >>>>> IgniteConfiguration.persistentStoreConfiguration.
> >>>>> Ideally CacheConfiguration.persistenceEnabled should be the only
> >>>> setting I
> >>>>> need to set.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Pavel
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Vladimir Ozerov <
> >>> voze...@gridgain.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> As a user I would definitely prefer to control persistence through
> >>> flag
> >>>>> on
> >>>>>> cache configuration. I do not even want to know what "memory
> >> policy"
> >>>> is.
> >>>>>> E.g. CacheConfiguration.persistenceEnabled.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Alexey Goncharuk <
> >>>>>> alexey.goncha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Igniters,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I am currently reviewing a change allowing to enable persistence
> >>> on a
> >>>>>>> per-memory-policy basis (thanks to K. Dudkov!) and have a
> >> question
> >>>>>>> regarding the changes in configuration.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The suggested change is to add a flag "persistenceEnabled"
> >>> (defaults
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>> true) to the memory policy configuration. To keep configuration
> >>>>>>> compatibility, the logic is as follows:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If PersistentStoreConfiguration is set, then only memory policies
> >>>> with
> >>>>>>> persistenceEnabled=true flag will be persisted, which is
> >> consistent
> >>>>> with
> >>>>>>> the current behavior. To disable persistence, persistenceEnabled
> >>> flag
> >>>>>>> should be explicitly set to false.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If PersistentStoreConfiguration is not set, then all caches are
> >>>> stored
> >>>>>>> in-memory and persistenceEnabled is ignored.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> While personally, I like this change, I would like to check if
> >>> there
> >>>>> are
> >>>>>>> any thoughts or objections to this approach.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> AG
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>

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