I do not like the idea as it would make it very hard to reason about
whether your SQL will fail or not. Let's looks at the problem from the
different angle. I have this question for years - why in the world *fair*
affinity function, whose only ultimate goal is to provide equal partition
distribution, depends on it's own previous state? Can we re-design in a way
that it depends only on partition count and current topology state?

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 12:16 AM, Valentin Kulichenko <
valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As far as I know, all logical caches with the same affinity function and
> node filter will end up in the same group. If that's the case, I like the
> idea. This is exactly what I was looking for.
>
> -Val
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Evgenii Zhuravlev <
> e.zhuravlev...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Dmitriy,
> >
> > Yes, you're right. Moreover, it looks like a good practice to combine
> > caches that will be used for collocated JOINs in one group since it
> reduces
> > overall overhead.
> >
> > I think it's not a problem to add this restriction to the SQL JOIN level
> if
> > we will decide to use this solution.
> >
> > Evgenii
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2017-08-09 17:07 GMT+03:00 Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 6:28 AM, ezhuravl <e.zhuravlev...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Folks,
> > > >
> > > > I've started working on a https://issues.apache.org/
> > > > jira/browse/IGNITE-5836
> > > > ticket and found that the recently added feature with cacheGroups
> doing
> > > > pretty much the same that was described in this issue. CacheGroup
> > > > guarantees
> > > > that all caches within a group have same assignments since they
> share a
> > > > single underlying 'physical' cache.
> > > >
> > >
> > > > I think we can return FairAffinityFunction and add information to its
> > > > Javadoc that all caches with same AffinityFunction and NodeFilter
> > should
> > > be
> > > > combined in cache group to avoid a problem with inconsistent previous
> > > > assignments.
> > > >
> > > > What do you guys think?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Are you suggesting that we can only reuse the same FairAffinityFunction
> > > across the logical caches within the same group? This would mean that
> > > caches from the different groups cannot participate in JOINs or
> > collocated
> > > compute.
> > >
> > > I think I like the idea, however, we need to make sure that we enforce
> > this
> > > restriction, at least at the SQL JOIN level.
> > >
> > > Alexey G, Val, would be nice to hear your thoughts on this.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Evgenii
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > tp19987p20669.html
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> > > >
> > >
> >
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