Oh, and not to say - JIRA would have to have a corresponding versions. Say right now I see only 1.5 in JIRA and it has 161 unresolved bugs. However, the -b1 release is already voted for and is almost official.
Cos On Sun, Dec 06, 2015 at 03:11PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > On Sun, Dec 06, 2015 at 11:30AM, Sergi Vladykin wrote: > > Cos and Brane, > > > > This issue arised not from our feeling of beautiful, but from practical > > reasons, > > namely we need to conform existing Maven and OSGi version models at the > > same time. > > > > We did not invent Maven or OSGi, but if we want to play with them well, > > we have to keep in mind their own quirks and bad design decisions, > > when choosing how our versions will look like. > > Very true. However, both Maven and OSGi are supporting normal semver schema, > so the argument doesn't apply ;) > > > Cos, > > > > JDK and Linux kernel are bad examples here exactly because > > they were free to choose any good or bad versioning they want, > > we are not that free. > > We are free to stick to simver and don't make convoluted choices, that will > confuse the hell out of the users. I am seen 1.5.0-b1 getting released and I > already have no idea if it is better than 1.5.0 or worst. If the latter - > where's 1.5.0 then? > > > Could you please clarify what exactly happened with HBase? > > And why do you think we will have the same problems? > > Hbase used to have 0.98.16.1-hadoop2 and 0.98.16.1-hadoop1 classifiers to > distinguish between different versions of HDFS base. Considering that maven > classifiers are designed to differentiate between _types_ of artifacts, not > the platforms, hooking up to the hbase artifacts from different dependency > management systems were a royal PITA. > > We'll have the same problem exactly because these are arbitrary choices and > have > no similarities with anything else out there. The most effective engineering > principal is KISS: anything that goes against it will have a higher friction > with the users. Meaning more disoriented emails on the user@ list, more > frustration and incorrectly filed bug reports, reflecting in a lower > traction with future contributors. > > Cheers, > Cos > > > 2015-12-06 4:24 GMT+03:00 Konstantin Boudnik <c...@apache.org>: > > > > > On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 07:18PM, Raul Kripalani wrote: > > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Raul, as an OSGI expert, do you confirm? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yep, it was my proposal only to add "-final". Just to be clear, this is > > > > a > > > > Maven qualifier. The maven-bundle-plugin will translate the hyphen to a > > > > dot, for compatibility with OSGi. > > > > > > For the die-hard fans of "-lksfdiuye" classifiers in Maven artifacts, I'd > > > suggest to check how well it has played for HBase. Hadoop been there as > > > well - > > > they still are fighting the consequences of once thought to be a neat > > > "-alpha" > > > idea. Seriously guys, this is gonna be mess, confusing the hell out of > > > everybody. > > > > > > Cos > > > > > > > *Raúl Kripalani* > > > > PMC & Committer @ Apache Ignite, Apache Camel | Integration, Big Data > > > > and > > > > Messaging Engineer > > > > http://about.me/raulkripalani | http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani > > > > http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: @raulvk > > >
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