Hi Andre,
Do you want to open a PR to add write.parquet.bloom-filter-ndv.column.<col> to
configure NDV? I am happy to do it too.

Thanks,
Huaxin

On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 10:02 AM André Rosa <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Huaxin,
> I'll start a new thread on parquet-dev.
> Thank you,
> André Rosa
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 5:39 PM huaxin gao <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks André for raising this!
>> +1 to adding write.parquet.bloom-filter-ndv.column.<col> to configure
>> NDV. For the “FPP without NDV” case, let’s defer to the Parquet community
>> (error vs ignore vs default NDV); Iceberg will follow their decision. Would
>> you like to start a thread on parquet-dev, or I’m happy to do it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Huaxin
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 3:46 AM André Rosa <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> while working on a parquet writer, I found an issue related to the bloom
>>> filter table properties.
>>>
>>> Currently, the iceberg specification
>>> <https://iceberg.apache.org/docs/latest/configuration/#write-properties>
>>> defines 3 table properties for configuring bloom filters:
>>>
>>> write.parquet.bloom-filter-enabled.column.col1
>>>
>>> (not set)
>>>
>>> Hint to parquet to write a bloom filter for the column: 'col1'
>>>
>>> write.parquet.bloom-filter-max-bytes
>>>
>>> 1048576 (1 MB)
>>>
>>> The maximum number of bytes for a bloom filter bitset
>>>
>>> write.parquet.bloom-filter-fpp.column.col1
>>>
>>> 0.01
>>>
>>> The false positive probability for a bloom filter applied to 'col1'
>>> (must > 0.0 and < 1.0)
>>>
>>> Looking at the parquet-java implementation
>>> <https://github.com/apache/parquet-java/blob/36a5f9cf8c1ce2c19631a0ec376665c5e41ea215/parquet-column/src/main/java/org/apache/parquet/column/impl/ColumnValueCollector.java#L179-L192>,
>>> the fpp value for a given column is ignored if the ndv for that column is
>>> not specified.
>>>
>>> Being that the iceberg spec does not define a property for this and that
>>> there is no default, the implementation always ignores the fpp property and 
>>> uses
>>> the bloom-filter-max-bytes as the exact size instead
>>> <https://github.com/apache/parquet-java/blob/299b0aea128645312badc329479920ddf8736577/parquet-column/src/main/java/org/apache/parquet/column/values/bloomfilter/BlockSplitBloomFilter.java#L205-L217>
>>> (if the bloom filter is enabled for the column).
>>>
>>>
>>> My proposal is to define a new table property
>>> 'write.parquet.bloom-filter-ndv.column.col1' in the spec to enable
>>> configuring the ndv to use.
>>>
>>> In addition, it also should be discussed if not specifying the ndv but
>>> specifying the fpp should be a config "error" (or simply ignored like
>>> parquet-java is doing) or if it should use a default ndv instead.
>>>
>>> What do you think should be done regarding this?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> André Rosa
>>>
>>

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