+1, json with no whitespace sounds like a reasonable default. But if saving
storage space and network is the main goal, then setting
`write.metadata.compression-codec` to `gzip` is way more impactful. Perhaps
this is a good default on the catalog side when creating new metadata json.

Best,
Kevin Liu

On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 12:19 PM Ian Streeter <i...@snowplow.io.invalid>
wrote:

> The numbers I shared were for uncompressed files.
>
> I am embarrassed to say I had not noticed there is an option
> `write.metadata.compression-codec`.  I had it set to the default `none`,
> and I reckon many other Iceberg users will too.
>
> Here are some updated numbers for my example metadata file:
>
> - Uncompressed with whitespace: 53.6 MB
> - Uncompressed, no whitespace: 41.4 MB
> - Gzipped, with whitespace: 5.36 MB
> - Gzipped, no whitespace: 5.13 MB
>
> So there is a 4.3% improvement in dropping whitespace for a gzipped file.
> I admit this is less improvement that I originally thought.
>
> But even so... I still think this sounds like an easy win, especially if
> many users (like myself) didn't know to enable compression.
>
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 at 19:51, Steve Zhang <hongyue_zh...@apple.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> +1. Configure table property `write.metadata.compression-codec` to gzip
>> is usually suggested to reduce metadata size but drop whitespace can still
>> help here.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Steve Zhang
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 17, 2025, at 8:32 AM, Fokko Driesprong <fo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Ian,
>>
>> Thanks for raising this. The numbers you mention, do you know if this was
>> compressed or uncompressed?
>>
>> I have read other issues in github which mention gigabyte-scale metadata
>>> files.
>>
>>
>> This sounds like a bad practice, and that table probably needs some
>> maintenance.
>>
>> I don't have the historical context of why we produce pretty JSON. I
>> think this would be an easy optimization, and I agree that making them
>> easily consumable by humans afterward is trivial. FWIW, PyIceberg also
>> produces unpretty JSON.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Fokko
>>
>>
>> Op ma 17 feb 2025 om 16:48 schreef Ian Streeter <i...@snowplow.io.invalid
>> >:
>>
>>> Currently, metadata files are pretty-printed, with lots of new-lines and
>>> whitespace indentations.   This is the relevant line of code, which uses
>>> the Jackson default pretty printer:
>>> https://github.com/apache/iceberg/blob/abb47830e7df7dc2ae93c74b0ad97f06cdd37aad/core/src/main/java/org/apache/iceberg/TableMetadataParser.java#L131
>>>
>>> If we could write metadata files without redundant whitespace, then it
>>> would save some storage space, and network overhead.
>>>
>>> This will have have most impact for tables with large metadata files.
>>> For example, I have seen a metadata files which was 53.6MB. After removing
>>> whitespace, this was reduced to 41.4MB. I have read other issues in github
>>> which mention gigabyte-scale metadata files.
>>>
>>> I cannot think of any downside of this suggested change. Metadata files
>>> are mainly read by machines not humans. And if a human does want to inspect
>>> a metadata file, then it is fairly easy to prettify a JSON file when needed.
>>>
>>> I opened this as an issue in github, and then took advice to move the
>>> discussion to this dev list.  See
>>> https://github.com/apache/iceberg/issues/12281
>>>
>>> I would appreciate hearing your thoughts.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ian
>>>
>>>
>>

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