I still would like a "register table" force" option

On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 5:06 PM Steve Zhang <hongyue_zh...@apple.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Thank you Dan for your detailed reply. Based on your explanation, do you
> think it would be worthwhile to support non-linear or complete metadata
> replacements in the REST implementation? I am happy to contribute but might
> need some guidance from the community on the best approach.
>
> For additional context, we explored into the workaround of using a
> combination of dropping table and re-registering the table with concerns of
> reading in between. There’s also an attempt to add a force option to the
> register-table API (https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/5327), which
> would allow for metadata swap on an existing table. However, it was
> suggested that use TableOperations.commit(base, new) is preferred to
> achieve atomicity.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve Zhang
>
>
>
> On Feb 10, 2025, at 1:49 PM, Daniel Weeks <dwe...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hey Steve,
>
> I think the issue here is that you're using the commit api in table
> operations to perform a non-incremental/linear change to the metadata.  The
> REST implementation is a little more strict in that it builds a set of
> updates based on the mutations made to the metadata and the commit process
> applies those changes.  In this scenario, no changes have been made and the
> call is attempting a complete replacement.
>
> The other implementations are just blindly swapping the location, so while
> that operation does achieve the effect you're looking for, it's not the
> right semantics for the commit.
>
> You might want to consider using the "register table" operation instead,
> which takes the table identifier and location to perform this type of swap.
>
> -Dan
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 10:17 AM Steve Zhang
> <hongyue_zh...@apple.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Hey Iceberg Experts:
>>
>>   I am seeking assistance and insights regarding an issue we’ve
>> encountered with RESTTableOperations and its inability to support on-demand
>> table metadata swaps. We are currently adopting the REST-based catalog from
>> Hive and have noticed a potential gap in the TableOperations.commit()
>> API. Typically, we use the commit API to revert a table to a previously
>> known state, as demonstrated below:
>>
>> String deisredMetadataPath =
>> "/var/newdb/table/metadata/00003-579b23d1-4ca5-4acf-85ec-081e1699cb83.metadata.json""
>> ops.commit(ops.current(), TableMetadataParser.read(ops.io(),
>> dedeisredMetadataPath));
>>
>>   However, this approach is no longer working with the REST-based
>> catalog. I suspect that the issue may be related to how the update type is
>> modeled in RESTTableOperations.  I have shared a unit test that reproduces
>> the problem on https://github.com/apache/iceberg/issues/12134, where it
>> works on JDBC and in-memory catalogs, but not with RESTCatalog.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Steve Zhang
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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