Hi David, just to clarify, I think we can shred arrays with json nulls without having to use untyped_value column, is this correct?
Selcuk On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 11:31 PM David Cashman <david.cash...@databricks.com.invalid> wrote: > Hi Nick, > > Your understanding is correct. The null in the Variant spec is meant > to encode a JSON null. A row-level value can be SQL null as in any > nullable column, but within a Variant value, there is only the > Variant-encoded null (i.e. JSON null). Some of the Spark expressions > (e.g. cast to a non-Variant type) implicitly convert Variant null to > SQL null. > > In the current version of the shredding spec, the intent is for null > in a shredded column to represent a missing field. Variant null would > need to be encoded in the "untyped_value" column. If JSON null is > expected to be common, it might be reasonable to specify a mechanism > to shred it (e.g. as a boolean column with a unique name). > > Thanks, > > David > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 11:38 AM Nick Riasanovsky <n...@bodo.ai> wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > As it seems the Variant spec decisions are nearly finalized, I would > like to ask a clarifying question regarding the difference between SQL Null > (missing) and JSON Null. Reading through the Spark specification, source > code, and also experimenting with Spark locally, it seems that the Variant > type handles the difference between SQL Null and JSON Null at a row level > and can successfully maintain this difference. However, it seems to me that > it's never possible for contents of a variant value to contain a SQL Null > value (only a JSON NULL), such as array(1, missing, 2). Since a variant > value is recursive, there doesn't appear to be any way to encode a SQL NULL > in the actual Variant value. > > > > If anyone has any insights that can confirm or reject my understanding, > I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm trying to become more familiar with the > Variant encoded and this seemed like it could be a potential "gotcha" once > column shredding is supported. > > > > Thanks, > > Nick Riasanovsky >