Thanks, Henrik!

> On Dec 28, 2024, at 9:22 AM, Henrik Ingo <hen...@nyrkio.com> wrote:
> 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/PODLINGNAMESEARCH/issues/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-230
> 
>> On Fri, 20 Dec 2024, 22.06 Dave Fisher, <w...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Create a new PODLINGNAMESEARCH issue for Otava. Once that is approved we
>> can ask INFRA and mentors to make the needed name changes.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Dec 20, 2024, at 9:50 AM, Alexander Sorokoumov <
>> aleksandr.sorokou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It looks like we have a winner!
>>> 
>>> What are the next steps, propose the new name in PODLINGNAMESEARCH-228?
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 3:52 PM Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm fond of Otava too.  Very nice suggestion there.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024, at 05:01, Henrik Ingo wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> https://www.vastavalo.net/tahtikuvio-iso-otava-otava-taivaalla-699408.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, I like Otava too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> henrik
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 7:50 PM Matt Fleming <m...@nyrkio.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I vote for Otava also.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 at 17:47, Alexander Sorokoumov <
>>>>>> aleksandr.sorokou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I also like Otava with its beautiful lore. It looks to me that it is
>>>> also
>>>>>>> your preference, Henrik and Sean, right?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 6:27 AM Sean McCarthy <
>>>>>> sean.mccarthy....@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I quite like Otava, and Tapio is good too. Both have great
>>>>>> iconography. I
>>>>>>>> think I have a preference for Otava, given what Henrik said:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It was crucial for... (drumroll) … navigation (whether on the
>>>> sea or
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> a forest) because its tail points directly to the North Star. Also
>>>> the
>>>>>>>> stars themselves visually look like change points on a graph
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 17, 2024, at 4:37 AM, Henrik Ingo <hen...@nyrkio.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ah right. I guess I like multiple options as potentially good. Now
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> mention it, I thought of the vote more as a poll. It would be
>>>>>>> interesting
>>>>>>>>> to see if there's some alternative that kind of "sticks out". But
>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> facilitate a discussion toward potential consensus, let me
>>>> aggregate
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>> presented options into a single email at least:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Apache Ghunter
>>>>>>>>> Apache Tapio
>>>>>>>>> Apache Sawa
>>>>>>>>> Apache Mielikki
>>>>>>>>> Apache Chaser
>>>>>>>>> Apache Suunnistus
>>>>>>>>> Apache Otava
>>>>>>>>> Apache Karen
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> My apologies Mick, when compiling this list I realized your email
>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>> contained a suggestion too. Don't know how I missed it originally
>>>> as
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> quite clear and a good suggestion.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Eddie and Midnight I'll disqualify due to apparent risk of
>>>> trademark
>>>>>>>>> infringement.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> From the above list, I sometimes wonder whether we should ask
>>>> legal
>>>>>>>> counsel
>>>>>>>>> for advice on the following:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Apache Ghunter -> Is it a problem if it rhymes with the previously
>>>>>>>>> disqualified name?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Tapio and Mielikkki -> Is it a problem that they are related to
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> mythical character known as Nyrkiö (my company)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Apache Karen -> Probably offensive?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Actually, Apache Chaser, as it is a synonym of the disqualified
>>>> name,
>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>> be good to check as well.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Even so, from the above list I actually like Apache Otava.
>>>>>> Personally I
>>>>>>>>> never felt like I hunt for regressions, nor do I chase them. I
>>>> simply
>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>> them. Otava (Big Bear star constellation) is a perfect symbol for
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> henrik
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 2:06 AM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Generally at the ASF we prefer to find consensus rather than
>>>> voting.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Is there a consensus on Gunther vs. Tapio (or something else)?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2024, at 3:54 PM, Henrik Ingo <hen...@nyrkio.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Should we start the voting then?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2024, 20.17 Alexander Sorokoumov, <
>>>>>>>>>>> aleksandr.sorokou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I liked Henrik's suggestions, Gunther and Tapio, so
>>>>>>> much,
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>> not want to look any further :)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2024 at 2:35 PM Mick Semb Wever <
>>>> m...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 at 02:16, Henrik Ingo <hen...@nyrkio.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mick was asking for a name that somehow is associated with
>>>> the
>>>>>>> topic
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change detection. I feel like Karen and Suunnistus are
>>>> perhaps
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you asked for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not asking for anything.  Was only contributing to ideas
>>>>>> (open
>>>>>>>>>> mode).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Up to y'all to land what you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 

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