Hive 
bylaws<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Hive/Bylaws#Bylaws-Voting>say
the mailing list is used for voting, but as I recall bylaws have some
wiggle room.

Decisions regarding the project are made by votes on the primary project
> development mailing list (u...@hive.apache.org <u...@pig.apache.org>).
> Where necessary, PMC voting may take place on the private Hive PMC mailing
> list. Votes are clearly indicated by subject line starting with [VOTE].
> Votes may contain multiple items for approval and these should be clearly
> separated. Voting is carried out by replying to the vote mail.


(Hm, the text says "primary project development mailing list" but then
user@hive is shown in parentheses -- is that a typo in the bylaws?)

Would people be willing to vote simultaneously by mail and on a jira?  It's
inconvenient but shouldn't be necessary after this release.

-- Lefty


On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Sushanth Sowmyan <khorg...@gmail.com>wrote:

> There is a technical issue as well now, as raised by Prashant. But
> there is also the issue that people aren't reliably able to
> respond/object/approve, and not knowing if/when it'll go through.
>
> I think I like Lefty's jira proposal - we could open out a jira for it
> and address votes there, I think I'll do that for RC2.
>
> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> > So this isn’t a technical issue, just concern about the delays in the
> mailing list?  Why not just extend the voting period then, until say Monday?
> >
> > Alan.
> >
> > On May 15, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Sushanth Sowmyan <khorg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Folks,
> >>
> >> I'm canceling this vote and withdrawing the RC1 candidate for the
> >> following reasons:
> >>
> >> a) I've talked to a couple of other people who haven't seen my mail
> >> updates to this thread, and saw my initial vote mail a bit late too.
> >> b) There's at least one other person that has attempted to reply to
> >> this thread, and I don't see the replies yet.
> >>
> >> Thus, when the mailing list channel isn't reliably working, the
> >> ability for people to +1 or -1 is taken away, and this does not work.
> >> (We don't want a situation where 3 people go ahead and +1, and that
> >> arrives before today evening, thus making the release releasable,
> >> while someone else discovers a breaking issue that should stop it, but
> >> is not able to have their objection or -1 appear in time.)
> >>
> >> I'm open to suggestions on how to proceed with the voting process. We
> >> could wait out this week and hope the ASF mailing list issues are
> >> resolved, but if it takes too much longer than that, we also have the
> >> issue of delaying an important bugfix release.
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
> >> -Sushanth
> >> (3:15PM PDT, May 15 2014)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Sushanth Sowmyan <khorg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> The apache dev list seems to still be a little wonky, Prasanth mailed
> >>> me saying he'd replied to this thread with the following content, that
> >>> I don't see in this thread:
> >>>
> >>> "Hi Sushanth
> >>>
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-7067
> >>> This bug is critical as it returns wrong results for min(), max(),
> >>> join queries that uses date/timestamp columns from ORC table.
> >>> The reason for this issue is, for these datatypes ORC returns java
> >>> objects whereas for all other types ORC returns writables.
> >>> When get() is performed on their corresponding object inspectors,
> >>> writables return a new object where as java object returns reference.
> >>> This will cause issue when any operator perform comparison on
> >>> date/timestamp values (references will be overwritten with next
> >>> values).
> >>> More information is provided in the description of the jira.
> >>>
> >>> I think the severity of this bug is critical and should be included as
> >>> part of 0.13.1. Can you please include this patch in RC2?”
> >>>
> >>> I think this meets the bar for criticality(actual bug in core feature,
> >>> no workaround) and severity( incorrect results, effectively data
> >>> corruption when used as source for other data), and I'm willing to
> >>> spin an RC2 for this, but I would still like to follow the process I
> >>> set up for jira inclusion though, to make sure I'm not being biased
> >>> about this, so I would request two other +1s to champion this bug's
> >>> inclusion into the release.
> >>>
> >>> Also, another thought here is whether it makes sense for us to try to
> >>> have a VOTE with a 72 hour deadline when the mailing list still seems
> >>> iffy and delaying mails by multiple hours. Any thoughts on how we
> >>> should proceed? (In case this mail goes out much later than I send it
> >>> out, I'm sending it out at 11:45AM PDT, Thu May 15 2014)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Sushanth Sowmyan <khorg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> Eugene, do you know if these two failures happen on 0.13.0 as well?
> >>>>
> >>>> I would assume that TestHive_7 is an issue on 0.13.0 as well, given
> >>>> that the fix for it went into trunk. What is your sense for how
> >>>> important it is that we fix this? i.e., per my understanding, (a) It
> >>>> does not cause a crash or adversly affect the ability for webhcat to
> >>>> continue operating, and (b) It means that the feature does not work
> >>>> (at all, but in isolation), and that there is no work around for it.
> >>>> This means I treat it as critical(valid bug without workaround) but
> >>>> not severe(breaks product, affects other features from being used).
> >>>> Thus, I'm willing to include HIVE-6521 in an RC2 if we have 2 more
> >>>> committers +1 an inclusion request for this.
> >>>>
> >>>> As for TestHeartbeat_1, that's an interesting failure. Do you have
> >>>> logs on what commandline options
> >>>> org.apache.hive.hcatalog.templeton.LauncherDelegator sent along that
> >>>> caused it to break? Would that affect other job launches?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Eugene Koifman
> >>>> <ekoif...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> >>>>> TestHive_7 is explained by
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-6521,
> >>>>> which is in trunk but not 13.1
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Eugene Koifman <
> ekoif...@hortonworks.com>wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I downloaded src tar, built it and ran webhcat e2e tests.
> >>>>>> I see 2 failures (which I don't see on trunk)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> TestHive_7 fails with
> >>>>>> "got percentComplete map 100% reduce 0%,  expected  map 100% reduce
> 100%"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> TestHeartbeat_1 fails to even launch the job.  This looks like the
> root
> >>>>>> cause
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ERROR | 13 May 2014 18:24:00,394 |
> >>>>>> org.apache.hive.hcatalog.templeton.CatchallExceptionMapper |
> >>>>>> java.lang.NullPointerException
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.hadoop.util.GenericOptionsParser.processGeneralOptions(GenericOptionsParser.java:312)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.hadoop.util.GenericOptionsParser.parseGeneralOptions(GenericOptionsParser.java:479)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.hadoop.util.GenericOptionsParser.<init>(GenericOptionsParser.java:170)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.hadoop.util.GenericOptionsParser.<init>(GenericOptionsParser.java:153)
> >>>>>>        at org.apache.hadoop.util.ToolRunner.run(ToolRunner.java:64)
> >>>>>>        at org.apache.hadoop.util.ToolRunner.run(ToolRunner.java:84)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.hive.hcatalog.templeton.LauncherDelegator$1.run(LauncherDelegator.java:107)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.hive.hcatalog.templeton.LauncherDelegator$1.run(LauncherDelegator.java:103)
> >>>>>>        at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
> >>>>>>        at javax.security.auth.Subject.doAs(Subject.java:396)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.hadoop.security.UserGroupInformation.doAs(UserGroupInformation.java:1557)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.hive.hcatalog.templeton.LauncherDelegator.queueAsUser(LauncherDelegator.java:103)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.hive.hcatalog.templeton.LauncherDelegator.enqueueController(LauncherDelegator.java:81)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.hive.hcatalog.templeton.JarDelegator.run(JarDelegator.java:55)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.hive.hcatalog.templeton.Server.mapReduceJar(Server.java:711)
> >>>>>>        at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native
> Method)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
> >>>>>>        at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> com.sun.jersey.spi.container.JavaMethodInvokerFactory$1.invoke(JavaMethodInvokerFactory.java:60)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> com.sun.jersey.server.impl.model.method.dispatch.AbstractResourceMethodDispatchProvider$TypeOutInvoker._dispatch(AbstractResourceMethodDispatchProvider.java:185)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> com.sun.jersey.server.impl.model.method.dispatch.ResourceJavaMethodDispatcher.dispatch(ResourceJavaMethodDispatcher.java:75)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> com.sun.jersey.server.impl.uri.rules.HttpMethodRule.accept(HttpMethodRule.java:302)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> com.sun.jersey.server.impl.uri.rules.RightHandPathRule.accept(RightHandPathRule.java:147)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> com.sun.jersey.server.impl.uri.rules.ResourceClassRule.accept(ResourceClassRule.java:108)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> com.sun.jersey.server.impl.uri.rules.RightHandPathRule.accept(RightHandPathRule.java:147)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> com.sun.jersey.server.impl.uri.rules.RootResourceClassesRule.accept(RootResourceClassesRule.java:84)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> com.sun.jersey.server.impl.application.WebApplicationImpl._handleRequest(WebApplicationImpl.java:1480)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> com.sun.jersey.server.impl.application.WebApplicationImpl._handleRequest(WebApplicationImpl.java:1411)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> com.sun.jersey.server.impl.application.WebApplicationImpl.handleRequest(WebApplicationImpl.java:1360)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> com.sun.jersey.server.impl.application.WebApplicationImpl.handleRequest(WebApplicationImpl.java:1350)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> com.sun.jersey.spi.container.servlet.WebComponent.service(WebComponent.java:416)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> com.sun.jersey.spi.container.servlet.ServletContainer.service(ServletContainer.java:538)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> com.sun.jersey.spi.container.servlet.ServletContainer.service(ServletContainer.java:716)
> >>>>>>        at
> javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:820)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.ServletHolder.handle(ServletHolder.java:565)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1360)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.hadoop.security.authentication.server.AuthenticationFilter.doFilter(AuthenticationFilter.java:392)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.web.AuthFilter.doFilter(AuthFilter.java:87)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1331)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.doHandle(ServletHandler.java:477)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.ContextHandler.doHandle(ContextHandler.java:1031)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.doScope(ServletHandler.java:406)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.ContextHandler.doScope(ContextHandler.java:965)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.ScopedHandler.handle(ScopedHandler.java:117)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.HandlerList.handle(HandlerList.java:47)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.HandlerWrapper.handle(HandlerWrapper.java:111)
> >>>>>>        at org.eclipse.jetty.server.Server.handle(Server.java:349)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.eclipse.jetty.server.AbstractHttpConnection.handleRequest(AbstractHttpConnection.java:449)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.eclipse.jetty.server.AbstractHttpConnection$RequestHandler.content(AbstractHttpConnection.java:925)
> >>>>>>        at
> org.eclipse.jetty.http.HttpParser.parseNext(HttpParser.java:857)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.eclipse.jetty.http.HttpParser.parseAvailable(HttpParser.java:235)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.eclipse.jetty.server.AsyncHttpConnection.handle(AsyncHttpConnection.java:76)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.eclipse.jetty.io.nio.SelectChannelEndPoint.handle(SelectChannelEndPoint.java:609)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.eclipse.jetty.io.nio.SelectChannelEndPoint$1.run(SelectChannelEndPoint.java:45)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.eclipse.jetty.util.thread.QueuedThreadPool.runJob(QueuedThreadPool.java:599)
> >>>>>>        at
> >>>>>>
> org.eclipse.jetty.util.thread.QueuedThreadPool$3.run(QueuedThreadPool.java:534)
> >>>>>>        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:680)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Sushanth Sowmyan <
> khorg...@apache.org>wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Apache Hive 0.13.1 Release Candidate 1 is available here:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~khorgath/releases/0.13.1_RC1/artifacts/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Maven artifacts are available here:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachehive-1013/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Source tag for RC1 is at :
> >>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/hive/tags/release-0.13.1-rc1/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Voting will conclude in 72 hours.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hive PMC Members: Please test and vote.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>> -Sushanth
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Eugene
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Eugene
> >>>>>
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