It has been a while since we talked about this. How about we start an N month clock starting from today. N can be 3 months not 6.
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Ashutosh Chauhan <hashut...@apache.org>wrote: > ~6 months have since gone by. Branch 0.13 has now been cut. Is it OK now to > drop 20 shims from trunk. Or, Ed are you still planning to use Hive on > Hadoop 0.20.2, 6 months from now (or whenever 0.14 gets released) > > Thanks, > Ashutosh > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Edward Capriolo <edlinuxg...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > Remeber that the shim layer will continue to exist. > > > > This is something I would consider: > > > > In 6 months from day x hive will no longer default to building against > > hadoop 0.20. Hadoop 0.20.x will not be officially supported, meaning that > > our build bots will no longer test against 0.20.x. Compatibility with > > hadoop 0.20.x will not be a requirement for any patch. The 0.20 shims > will > > still remain in trunk. Committers could still accept patches to support > > 0.20 as long as they are not detrimental to current supported versions. > > > > What this would mean is if i checked out hive trunk in 5 months and 29 > days > > after day x it would still build , compile , and run on hadoop 0.20 and > be > > feature complete. At the 6 month mark i lose that guarantee. > > > > On Thursday, September 19, 2013, Edward Capriolo <edlinuxg...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > "+1 to dropping Hadoop 0.20.2 support in Hive 0.13, which given that > Hive > > > 0.12 has just branched means it isn't likely that Hive 0.13 will come > out > > > in the next 6 months." > > > > > > LOL > > > -1. I was not suggesting we drop 0.20.2 support now, so the next hive > > version 0.13 won't have it. That would essentially mean we are dropping > it > > now. > > > > > > I was suggesting dropping the 0.20.2 support in 6 months, so whatever > > version STARTED won't have it. > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Owen O'Malley <omal...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> +1 to dropping Hadoop 0.20.2 support in Hive 0.13, which given that > Hive > > >> 0.12 has just branched means it isn't likely that Hive 0.13 will come > > out > > >> in the next 6 months. > > >> > > >> -- Owen > > >> > > >> > > >> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Brock Noland <br...@cloudera.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> > First off, I have to apologize, I didn't know there would be such > > >> > passions on both sides of the 0.20.2 argument! > > >> > > > >> > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Edward Capriolo < > > edlinuxg...@gmail.com> > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > That rant being done, > > >> > > > >> > No worries man, Hadoop versions are something worth ranting about. > > >> > IMHO Hadoop has a history of changing API's and breaking end users. > > >> > However, I feel this is improving. > > >> > > > >> > > we can not and should not support hadoop 0.20.2 > > >> > > forever. Discontinuing hadoop 0.20.2 in say 6 months might be > > reasonable, > > >> > > but I think dropping it on the floor due to a one line change for > a > > >> > missing > > >> > > convenience constructor is a bit knee-jerk. > > >> > > > >> > Very sorry if I came across with the opinion that we should "drop > > >> > 0.20.2 now" because of the constructor issue. The issue brought up > > >> > 0.20.2's age in my mind and the logical next step is to ask how long > > >> > we plan on supporting it! :) I like the time bounding idea and I > feel > > >> > 6 months is reasonable. FWIW, the 1.X series is stable for my needs. > > >> > > > >> > Brock > > >> > > > > > > > > > >
