Hi Ayush,

The whole repo is marked for internal use only and there is a clear
mention at the very beginning that the assets are not official ASF
release artifacts. I see this as an equivalent to nightly builds and
SNAPSHOT artifacts where we don't really need a vote to publish
something. I can also add a separate DISCLAIMER.txt file if it helps
clarify things better.

The assets are not source code so along with the fact that this repo
is for internal use only I think the normal requirements that apply
for ASF releases (NOTICE, LICENSE, etc.) don't apply here.

For IP, there is no particular difference from any other contribution.
I have an ICLA on file and the code landed on the repo under my
account so there is no need for a special process. Indeed if there
were many people involved or it was a very large code base we would
have to follow a different procedure.

Other projects are using SVN/Git, and S3 buckets [1, 2] to host data
files but I find that approach less transparent and more complicated
to manage so I thought of GitHub release assets as a better fit for
our use-case.

To be on the safe side I just raised LEGAL-738 [3] to confirm that
this publish model is acceptable. Those interested feel free to follow
the ticket and add further questions there.

Best,
Stamatis

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-26434
[2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-27982
[3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-738

On Wed, Sep 30, 2026 at 6:56 AM Ayush Saxena <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Stamatis,
> Thanx for chasing this, couple of questions:
>
> * This shows releases [1], is it allowed to release without a PMC
> vote? and I am not sure if we can host it on github according to [2]
> * We need to add NOTICE file and all as well before any release
> * Your original repo [3] didn't had LICENSE file, are we allowed to
> pull it into ASF without SGA or any legal process? Maybe you are the
> only author and you only contributed it to ASF & you have ICLA on file
> that gives us a pass, I am just curious if that is the case or not
>
> -Ayush
>
> [1] https://github.com/apache/hive-test-datasets/releases
> [2] https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#host-GA
> [3] https://github.com/zabetak/hive-postgres-metastore
> [4] https://hive.apache.org/community/bylaws/#actions
>
> On Tue, 29 Sept 2026 at 18:36, Stamatis Zampetakis <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Today I created https://github.com/apache/hive-test-datasets and
> > migrated all data dumps that were present under my personal GitHub
> > account to the official ASF repo. Going forward, we can all make use
> > of this repository to store voluminous datasets that are used by our
> > testing infrastructure and are not appropriate for the main Apache
> > Hive repository.
> >
> > Best,
> > Stamatis
> >
> > On Tue, May 5, 2026 at 5:56 PM Wechar Yu <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Glad to see this moving forward. Keeping the lightweight CI-related work 
> > > in the Hive repository sounds good to me.
> > >
> > > A small concern: for image-related changes, PR CI may still use the 
> > > existing image, so it may not fully validate the change itself. We could 
> > > consider using a temporarily built image for such PR when defining the CI 
> > > workflow.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Wechar Yu
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 5, 2026 at 9:08 PM Stamatis Zampetakis <[email protected]> 
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Personally, I favor keeping CI/infra code under the main Hive repo.
> > >> The initiative for a separate repo stemmed from concerns raised during
> > >> the review HIVE-28339 but that was a while ago so the situation might
> > >> be different now. Based on my personal preference and what has been
> > >> expressed so far I will reformulate the proposal.
> > >>
> > >> Any code designated for Infra/CI can live in the main Hive repository
> > >> (possibly under a new module or directory). If there are no objections
> > >> in the following days, we can adopt this contribution model for
> > >> HIVE-29591, HIVE-27382, HIVE-28339 and any other related Jira.
> > >>
> > >> For datasets, especially in light of HIVE-27382 and HIVE-26830, my
> > >> concrete proposal is to move
> > >> https://github.com/zabetak/hive-test-datasets under the Apache
> > >> namespace. In other words, create
> > >> https://github.com/apache/hive-test-datasets and publish the DB dumps
> > >> there. Since these are large, binary, non-source files that rarely
> > >> change, putting them under version control doesn't make much sense.
> > >> Therefore, I propose publishing them as release assets and fetching
> > >> them from there as illustrated in [1]. If there are no objections or
> > >> better ideas within the next 72 hours, I will proceed with creating
> > >> the new repo.
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >> Stamatis
> > >>
> > >> [1] 
> > >> https://github.com/zabetak/hive-postgres-metastore/blob/45ce9f3c28093069f0627adf7f8d9a9ec76299ef/Dockerfile#L3
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, May 5, 2026 at 8:20 AM László Bodor <[email protected]> 
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Hey team!
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks, Stamatis, for initiating this thread. I hope we can go further 
> > >> > this time than last time.
> > >> >
> > >> >> 1. Are there objections in creating a new Git repo under the 
> > >> >> apache/hive namespace?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 2. What name would you prefer?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > I can answer both at the same time. I prefer maintaining infra code in 
> > >> > the hive repo, especially as long as it is no more than a few files.
> > >> > This applies to what you were referring to as hive-ci. As I mentioned 
> > >> > on HIVE-29591, hive ci code basically is nothing more than a 
> > >> > Dockerfile, considering that originally, hive-dev-box covered a way 
> > >> > more than we actually need. I'm ready to provide a vanilla precommit 
> > >> > image for this purpose.
> > >> >
> > >> > Regarding: hive-infra, hive-datasets, I don't have a strong opinion.
> > >> >
> > >> > I think hive-infra is also better kept in the hive repository. The 
> > >> > only thing we might want to take care of is not triggering a full 
> > >> > pre-commit each time infra code is pushed to the repo, because it 
> > >> > won't test anything (since infra code is not deployed to the GCP 
> > >> > project in the PR scope).
> > >> >
> > >> > Regarding hive-datasets: I agree that huge raw data or dumps cannot be 
> > >> > part of the Hive repository, so a separate apache/hive-datasests would 
> > >> > suffice, we need to just mention it in our Docker README, and it's 
> > >> > done :)
> > >> > https://github.com/apache/hive/blob/master/packaging/src/docker/README.md
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Regards,
> > >> > Laszlo Bodor
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, 4 May 2026 at 09:32, Stamatis Zampetakis <[email protected]> 
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Hey team,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Given the recent activity under HIVE-29590 [1], I would like to 
> > >> >> revive this discussion about creating a dedicated Git repository for 
> > >> >> ci/test/dataset related stuff. Our lack of reactivity on this topic 
> > >> >> makes our whole test/ci infrastructure depend on personal/user 
> > >> >> specific repositories. This is not aligned with the ASF way and and 
> > >> >> makes us depend too much on individual users/contributors leading to 
> > >> >> a single point of failure.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The lack of dedicated repo blocked various useful contributions in 
> > >> >> the past (e.g., [2]) that became stale and eventually were closed 
> > >> >> without action.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Summing up I have two questions:
> > >> >> 1. Are there objections in creating a new Git repo under the 
> > >> >> apache/hive namespace?
> > >> >> 2. What name would you prefer?
> > >> >> * https://github.com/apache/hive-datasets
> > >> >> * https://github.com/apache/hive-ci
> > >> >> * https://github.com/apache/hive-infra
> > >> >>
> > >> >> At the moment that main things that we want to put there is 
> > >> >> everything under HIVE-29590, HIVE-26830, and HIVE-28339.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Best,
> > >> >> Stamatis
> > >> >>
> > >> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-29590
> > >> >> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/4qb3z3yx9ovnxbsr4b02ohz6twlkrlx9
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 2025/10/24 12:22:12 Stamatis Zampetakis wrote:
> > >> >> > Thanks for starting the discussion Thomas!
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > In fact, I would go one step further and instead of storing the
> > >> >> > dumps/dockerfiles in personal git repositories such as [1] to create
> > >> >> > an apache git repo for that purpose:
> > >> >> > https://github.com/apache/hive-datasets
> > >> >> > I know that git is not the perfect place to store large files but I
> > >> >> > feel that moving from a personal managed repo to a community managed
> > >> >> > repo is something worth doing.
> > >> >> > Subsequently, having also a corresponding namespace in Docker Hub
> > >> >> > makes sense to me.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Best,
> > >> >> > Stamatis
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > [1] https://github.com/zabetak/hive-postgres-metastore
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 12:10 PM Thomas Rebele 
> > >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Hi Hive community,
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > I'm working on creating a docker image for a TPC-DS 30TB 
> > >> >> > > metastore with histogram statistics 
> > >> >> > > [HIVE-26830](https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-26830).
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > The previous TPC-DS metastore docker images have been published 
> > >> >> > > at https://hub.docker.com/r/zabetak/postgres-tpcds-metastore. 
> > >> >> > > Stamatis suggested to create a repo under 
> > >> >> > > https://hub.docker.com/u/apache, maybe called "hive-dataset".
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > What do you think about this approach?
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Best regards,
> > >> >> > > Thomas Rebele
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> >

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