Thanks all for sharing your thoughts. It looks there's a consensus on upgrading to Hive 4 and dropping hive-runtime. I've submitted a PR[1] as the first step. Please help review.
1. https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/11750 Thanks, Manu On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 11:26 PM Shohei Okumiya <oku...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi all, > > I also prefer option 1. I have some initiatives[1] to improve > integrations between Hive and Iceberg. The current style allows us to > develop both Hive's core and HiveIcebergStorageHandler simultaneously. > That would help us enhance integrations. > > - [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-28410 > > Regards, > Okumin > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 4:17 AM Fokko Driesprong <fo...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > Hey Cheng, > > > > Thanks for the suggestion. The nightly snapshots are available: > https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/snapshots/org/apache/iceberg/iceberg-core/, > which might help when working on features that are not released yet (eg > Nanosecond timestamps). Besides that, we should run RCs against Hive to > check if everything works as expected. > > > > I'm leaning toward removing Hive 2 and 3 as well. > > > > Kind regards, > > Fokko > > > > Op wo 27 nov 2024 om 20:05 schreef rdb...@gmail.com <rdb...@gmail.com>: > >> > >> I think that we should remove Hive 2 and Hive 3. We already agreed to > remove Hive 2, but Hive 3 is not compatible with the project anymore and is > already EOL and will not see a release to update it so that it can be > compatible. Anyone using the existing Hive 3 support should be able to > continue using older releases. > >> > >> In general, I think it's a good idea to let people use older releases > when these situations happen. It is difficult for the project to continue > to support libraries that are EOL and I don't think there's a great > justification for it, considering Iceberg support in Hive 4 is native and > much better! > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 7:12 AM Cheng Pan <pan3...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> That said, it would be helpful if they continue running > >>> tests against the latest stable Hive releases to ensure that any > >>> changes don’t unintentionally break something for Hive, which would be > >>> beyond our control. > >>> > >>> > >>> I believe we should continue maintaining a Hive Iceberg runtime test > suite with the latest version of Hive in the Iceberg repository. > >>> > >>> > >>> i think we can keep some basic Hive4 tests in iceberg repo > >>> > >>> > >>> Instead of running basic tests on the Iceberg repo, maybe let Iceberg > publish daily snapshot jars to Nexus, and have a daily CI in Hive to > consume those jars and run full Iceberg tests makes more sense? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Cheng Pan > >>> >