+1 to deprecate Hive on Spark.

I feel directly removing it in a minor release is probably a bad idea. Most
users will upgrade to 3.2 first and go to 4.0 later. If we deprecate it in
3.2 it transitions well into its removal as users upgrade to 4.0 eventually.

If the goal to stabilize the branch-3, we can disable the failing tests on
Hive on Spark.

Thanks,
Vihang

On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 12:32 AM Alessandro Solimando <
alessandro.solima...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 from me too
>
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 at 06:09, Ayush Saxena <ayush...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1 on removing Hive on Spark from branch-3
> >
> > -Ayush
> >
> > > On 23-Feb-2023, at 6:40 AM, Wang, Yuming <yumw...@ebay.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > +1.
> > >
> > > From: Naresh P R <nares...@apache.org>
> > > Date: Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 02:49
> > > To: dev@hive.apache.org <dev@hive.apache.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Proposal to deprecate Hive on Spark from
> > branch-3
> > > External Email
> > >
> > > +1 to remove Hive on Spark in branch-3
> > > ---
> > > Regards,
> > > Naresh P R
> > >
> > >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 5:37 AM Sankar Hariappan
> > >> <sankar.hariap...@microsoft.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> +1, to remove Hive on Spark in branch-3.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Sankar
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Rajesh Balamohan <rbalamo...@apache.org>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 6:58 PM
> > >> To: dev@hive.apache.org
> > >> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Proposal to deprecate Hive on Spark from
> > branch-3
> > >>
> > >> +1 on removing Hive on Spark in branch-3.
> > >>
> > >> It was not done earlier since it was removing a feature in the branch.
> > But
> > >> if there is enough consensus, we should consider removing it.
> > >>
> > >> ~Rajesh.B
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 12:48 PM Aman Raj
> <raja...@microsoft.com.invalid
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi team,
> > >>>
> > >>> We have been trying to fix Hive on Spark test failures for a long
> > >>> time. As of now, branch-3 has less than 12 test failures (whose fix
> > >>> have not been identified). 8 of them are related to Hive on Spark. I
> > >>> had mailed about the failures in my previous mail threads. Thanks to
> > >>> Vihang for working on them as well. But we have not been able to
> > >> identify the root cause till now.
> > >>> These fixes can be tracked in the following tickets : [HIVE-27087]
> Fix
> > >>> TestMiniSparkOnYarnCliDriver test failures on branch-3 - ASF JIRA (
> > >>> apache.org)<
> >
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> > >>> QTestUtil session lifecycle - ASF JIRA
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> > >>>
> > >>> Until we have a green branch-3, we cannot go ahead to push new
> > >>> features for the Hive-3.2.0 release. This is kind of a blocker for
> this
> > >> release.
> > >>> Already bringing the test fixes to the current state took more than 2
> > >>> months.
> > >>>
> > >>> I wanted to bring up a proposal to deprecate Hive on Spark from
> > >>> branch-3 altogether. This would ensure that branch-3 is aligned with
> > >>> the master as done in
> > >>>
> >
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> > >>> es.apache.org
> > >> %2Fjira%2Fbrowse%2FHIVE-26134&data=05%7C01%7CSankar.Hariappan%
> > >> 40microsoft.com
> >
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> > >> Just wanted to have a vote on this in parallel working on the test
> > fixes.
> > >> If we have the approval from the community, we can deprecate it
> > altogether.
> > >>>
> > >>> Please feel free to suggest any concerns or suggestions you have.
> > >>> Also, I welcome any possible fix suggestion for the test failures.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Aman.
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
>

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