Hello Narayanan, Thank you so much for your feedback.
As I view it, and have had success in other projects, the RawStore interface defines the methods for pulling data from some underlying data source. I would imagine something like JdbcRawStore, FileRawStore, HBaseRawStore, MongoRawStore, etc. I do not believe that CachedStore should be a feature. Given that there can be multiple HMS accessing the same data source (RDBMS for example), there is not a lot of caching within the HMS application. I think we should revisit this, we should better leverage DataNucleaus Level 2 Cache, but that is another issue. The point is that each RawStore instance should be able to perform caching that makes sense for the underlying data source, I do not think there should be some sort of cache that is wrapping the RawStore implementation. My expectation would be that the HMSHandler would call a separate caching framework and only reach out to the underlying data source (the RawStore), and start a transaction, if there it needs to load something that is not already in the main cache, thus the cache is not tightly coupled to the RawStore stuff. If you're not familiar with this, check out the Guava LoaderCache. In this example, the loading code would reach out to the RawStore. https://github.com/google/guava/wiki/CachesExplained ------------ InvalidOperationException is a Thrift-generated error. We really, really, should not have these Thrift generated checked exceptions embedded in the HMS. They lack some pretty important features like the ability to specify a "cause" for the exception. There are all kinds of weird workarounds in the code to account for these deficiencies. For example, there are places in the code that embed stack traces in the message of the Thrift Exceptions and then parse them to re-create a new Exception. This is pretty bonkers and added a lot of code/time to add these capabilities instead of simply using standing POJO exceptions. Also, if someday for example, we wanted to replace Thrift with another RPC engine (ProtoBuffs), we have to yank out all of these Exception classes before we can fully remove the dependency on Thrift. Any Thrift-Generated exceptions should only be generated in the HMSHandler (which should be called HMSThriftHandler) class. Whatever the RawStore needs to throw, it should be unchecked Hive project exceptions. Interestingly, as I've been examining the code, I've noticed that many of the unchecked Exceptions that DataNucleaus throws go un-caught, so the code claims that the Thrift-generated MetaException is the generic "database error," however, that is simply not true. Most of the methods do not catch the DataNucleaus exceptions and those bubble up. So yes, any such Thrift-generated Exceptions should be replace by something from Hive: "InvalidOperationException" is fine to pass back to the Thrift client, but it should be something like: // HMSHandler try { rawStore.doThings(); } catch (IllegalArgumentException e) { LOG.error("Error doing things", e); throw new InvalidOperationException(e.getMessage()); } https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-25126 ------------ To your point about "rollbackAndCleanup," if you look at the RawStore interface as simply a class that provides persistence, then the "andCleanup" part is moot. Anything that is unrelated to data persistence needs to be moved out. If the calls to RawStore have weird side effects that do not directly apply to the storage (like creating a warehouse directory in HDFS), that code needs to be removed. Anything related to the transaction is reverted by the calling class with a call to RawStore#rollbackTransaction. Thanks. On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 9:17 AM Narayanan Venkateswaran <vnh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Thank you for the email, > > please find some replies inline, > > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 11:12 PM David <dam6...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello Gang, > > > > I just wanted to put out a few thoughts for anyone interested in the > > Metastore, and in particular, the connection handling. > > > > As I understand it, client requests from the Thrift server come into Hive > > via the HMSHandler class. This class lists all of the services (RPCs) > that > > the Hive Metastore provides. > > > > This class's methods do some amount of validation, listener notification, > > but it ultimately calls one or more RawStore/ObjectStore methods to > > interact with the database. > > > > I guess you mean one of the RawStore implementations to interact with the > database, > > for example it could be CachedStore also. > > > > > > This entire orchestration needs some work to make this code more easy to > > work with and to improve error handling. > > > > What I propose is: > > > > 1// Remove Thrift Errors from RawStore > > > > Remove all references to > > NoSuchObjectException/InvalidOperationException/MetaException from the > > method signature of RawStore. These Exceptions are generated by Thrift > and > > are used to communicate error conditions across the wire. They are not > > designed for use as part of the underlying stack, yet in Hive, they have > > been pushed down into these data access operators. The RawStore should > not > > have to be this tightly coupled to the transport layer. My preference > here > > would be to remove all checked Exceptions from RawStore in favor of > runtime > > exceptions. > > > I guess we will have to look at what to do with InvalidOperationExceptions > such as the following, > > if (hasNsChange) { > throw new InvalidOperationException("Cannot change ns; from " + > getNsOrDefault(plan.getNs()) > + " to " + changes.getNs()); > } > > So do we retain these? > > > > > > This is a popular format and is used (and therefore dovetails > > nicely) with the underlying database access library DataNucleaus. All of > > the logging of un-checked Exceptions, and transforming them into Thrift > > exceptions, should happen at the HMSHandler code. > > > > I am OK with this, but you might end up amalgamating a lot of RawStore > implementation-specific exception handling code in the HMSHandler, an > already cluttered class. For example, the CachedStore implementation may be > throwing an exception different from the ObjectStore and we will probably > end up wrapping both of these in the HMSHandler. > > Similarly, each RawStore implementation may need to perform actions in the > event of an exception from the underlying database, > e.g. rollbackAndCleanup. I guess this is where the moving of transaction > management kicks in? > > > > > > > 2// Move Transaction Management > > > > The ObjectStore has a pretty crazy path of handling transactions. There > > seems to be a lot of extra code around transaction tracking that was put > in > > probably because it's so hard to track transaction management within > Hive. > > > > Agreed! > > > > All of the boiler-plate transaction management code should be removed > from > > ObjectStore and instead brought up into HMS handler as well. > > > This will need to be thought through. I agree that refactoring transaction > management is a good idea, but moving it into HMSHandler is just going to > further clutter HMSHandler. HMSHandler is already a huge class with a lot > of clutter that needs to be refactored before we add more into it. > > This allows > > the handler to create a single transaction per-request and call the > > necessary ObjectStore methods. This is not currently possible because > each > > ObjectStore handles transactions in its own special way. When you include > > all of the open/commit/roll-back, and "transactional listeners," I'm not > > certain all code paths are correct. For example, I suspect some > listeners > > are being alerted outside of a transaction. I also suspect some actions > > are occurring in multiple transactions that should really be occurring > > within a single transaction. > > > > I think a CachedStore also passes down various calls down to the > ObjectStore. Starting a transaction in HMSHandler will keep the transaction > open for a more than necessary duration. I agree that the refactoring needs > to happen, but I am not convinced that moving all transaction handling to > HMSHandler is the way forward. Ofcourse I don't have a better idea as of > now. > > > > > > I have locally created some helper-code (TransactionOperations) to do > this > > from HMSHandler: > > > > TransactionOperations.newOperation(rawstore).execute(new > > TransactionCallback<RawStore>() { > > > > // This method is called after openTransaction is called on the > > RawStore > > // Runtime Exceptions are caught and cause the transaction to > roll > > back > > // The RawStore method commitTransaction is called if method > > completes OK > > @Override > > public void doInTransaction(RawStore rawstore) throws > MetaException > > { > > > > // These RawStore method happen in one transaction > > rawstore.methodABC(); > > rawstore.methodXXX(); > > rawstore.methodXYZ(); > > > > if (!transactionalListeners.isEmpty()) { > > transactionalListenersResponses = > > > > MetaStoreListenerNotifier.notifyEvent(transactionalListeners, > > EventType.CREATE_XXX, > > new CreateXxxEvent(true, HMSHandler.this, xxx)); > > } > > } > > }); > > > > > > Re-architecting the method signatures to remove the MetaExceptions is a > > large-ish task, but trying to unwind all this transaction code is going > to > > be a bear, it's what prompted me to write this email. > > > > Sure, I understand. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > Thank you, > Narayanan >