Hi David,

While a vendor may not support a component in an open source project,
removing it or not is a decision by and for the community. I certainly
understand that the vendor you mentioned has contributed a great deal
(including my personal effort while working there), it's not up to the
vendor to make a call like what is proposed here.

As a community, we should have gone through a thorough discussion and
reached a consensus before actually making such a big change, in my opinion.

Thanks,
Xuefu

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:49 AM David <dam6...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey,
>
> Thanks for the input.
>
> FYI. Cloudera (Cloudera + Hortonworks) have removed HoS from their latest
> offering.
>
> "Tez is now the only supported execution engine, existing queries that
> change execution mode to Spark or MapReduce within a session, for example,
> fail."
>
>
> https://docs.cloudera.com/cdp/latest/upgrade-post/topics/ug_hive_configuration_changes.html
>
>
> So I don't know who will be supporting this feature moving forward, but
> there has been a lot of work done to make this change as painless as
> possible.  Simply set the engine to 'tez' and remove the HoS-related
> settings should address many use cases.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:36 AM Xuefu Z <usxu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sorry for chiming in late. However, I don't think we should remove Hive
> on
> > Spark just because of a technical problem. This is rather a big decision
> > that we need to be careful about. There are users that will be left high
> > and dry by this move.
> >
> > If the community decides to desupport and eventually remove it, I think
> we
> > need to have a due process. We also need a deprecation plan if that's we
> > decide to do. Before that, I'm -1 on this proposal.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Xuefu
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 7:57 AM David <dam6...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Team,
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/hive/pull/1285
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 11:49 PM Gopal V <gop...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Gopal
> > > >
> > > > On 6/3/20 7:48 PM, Jesus Camacho Rodriguez wrote:
> > > > > +1
> > > > >
> > > > > -Jesús
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 1:58 PM Alan Gates <alanfga...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> +1.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Alan.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 1:40 PM Prasanth Jayachandran
> > > > >> <pjayachand...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> +1
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> On Jun 3, 2020, at 1:38 PM, Ashutosh Chauhan <
> > hashut...@apache.org>
> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> +1
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 1:23 PM David Mollitor <
> dam6...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> Hello Gang,
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> I have spent some time working on upgrading Avro (far less than
> > > > >> others):
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-21737
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> This should be a relatively easy thing to do, but is blocked by
> > > > >>>>> Hive-on-Spark.  HoS has a weird thing where it downloads some
> > > > >>>>> cloud-storage-hosted file of Spark-Hadoop as part of its maven
> > run.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Since HoS is not going to receive updates from the major
> vendors,
> > > is
> > > > >> it
> > > > >>>>> time to simply remove it?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Tests are currently disabled:
> > > > >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-23137
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Thanks.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Xuefu Zhang
> >
> > "In Honey We Trust!"
> >
>

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