On Thu, 2025-07-24 at 06:53 -0400, Gary Gregory wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2025, 06:33 Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 2025-07-23 at 10:22 -0700, Ryan Schmitt wrote:
> > > I saw that this was just announced:
> > > 
> > > 
> > https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/developer/preview-release-of-theaws-sdk-java-2-x-http-client-built-on-apache-httpclient-5-5-x/
> > > 
> > > Currently, both versions of the AWS Java SDK still default to
> > > HttpClient 4.x, except for async clients in V2 which default to
> > > Netty.
> > > It looks like the improved support for virtual threads in 5.x is
> > > the
> > > main reason they're finally offering an upgraded Apache client.
> > > 
> > 
> > Is this a good thing for us? I am not sure. Ultimately, this looks
> > like
> > a painful reminder that sooner or later we, as a project, will get
> > crushed between JRE HTTP client and Netty. We might still have a
> > few
> > years of good time ahead of us, though.
> > 
> 
> I think it all depends on how good the JRE HTTP client is and what
> features
> it carries.
> 
> The JRE's logging package is much worse than full featured logging
> API and
> libraries like Log4j.
> 

I agree JRE logging is a complete disgrace. JRE HTTP client is not. It
is decent at the very least and is our greatest competition. 

Oleg

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