On Tue, 2022-11-15 at 15:41 -0500, Gary Gregory wrote:
> This is a distraction from the problem I brought up in another
> thread: Oleg
> erases other people's commits at he wishes, CTR or RTC won't matter.
> This
> is not the Apache way.
> 

You have a long history of making really bad changes to the project
code based on nothing more than your personal wishes and preferences.
Moreover, you repeatedly ignored multiple requests to have a discussion
before making such changes at the very least, a basic decency toward
your fellow project members.

THIS is not the Apache way.

Oleg


> Gary
> 
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022, 15:37 Michael Osipov <micha...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > Am 2022-11-15 um 14:32 schrieb Oleg Kalnichevski:
> > > We have an implicit commit-them-review policy ever since the
> > > inception
> > > of the project in the year of 2005. We all are free to commit
> > > what we
> > > deem appropriate but no commit can be considered safe until it
> > > has been
> > > voted upon and tagged with a release tag.
> > > 
> > > If an objection has been raised about any commit in the
> > > development
> > > branch it can be reverted and should be resubmitted through a PR
> > > and put
> > > to a review. This basically applies to all committers and any
> > > commit.
> > > Any committer can ask for a commit to be reverted and the change-
> > > set put
> > > to a review.
> > > 
> > > If any commiter no longer feels comfortable with this approach I
> > > personally will have no problem switching to the pre-commit
> > > review
> > > policy whereby every change must go through a PR first. Naturally
> > > that
> > > would call for a format vote.
> > 
> > You guys might want to read dev@maven.a.o. We had this discussion
> > recently. Coincedence.
> > 
> > After the Maven 3.7.0 fiasco we have moved from CTR to RTC which --
> > yes,
> > it slows down the process -- *but* drastically improved the quality
> > of
> > the code/new changes /before/ they land and reverts are basically
> > down
> > to zero. Additionally, people tend to do better self reviews. I did
> > a
> > lot of self reviews on recently Doxia changes and noticed myself
> > that my
> > PRs were incomplete. I would never go back to CTR, personally.
> > (except
> > for typo fixes or alike)
> > 
> > Of course, CTR means that you have qualified people who can review
> > in a
> > decent timeframe (needs to be defined). It is never wrong to have
> > another pair of eyes on a solution.
> > 
> > Michael
> > 
> > 
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