Also, to James's idea of publishing the skill on skills.sh, it looks like
the Apache Beam folks put their skills in a .agent/skills directory within
their repository: https://github.com/apache/beam/tree/master/.agent/skills.
Perhaps we could do the same in Groovy and Geb?

I know the Spock maintainers have also claimed space on Context7 (
https://github.com/spockframework/spock/commit/6eafb3de4c4042c789d2f508c42808d0b15e38ef
).

On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 4:48 PM Jonny <[email protected]> wrote:

> I added a few more tips that I've picked up over the years.
> https://gist.github.com/jonnybot0/dcb7fb817ae6c1860eaec164391b49b7
>
> Most are additions (ways to make your test not flaky, link to the Geb
> docs), but there is one place that I pushed back hard against James's
> clanker:
>
> > *Overusing required: false* on optional content - the only time you
> really want to mark a page element as required: false is when your spec
> *needs* to try to interact with it when it's absent (for example, to
> assert that it isn't present, !page.buttons.sometimesThereButton). If the
> button may or may not be there, but you never test the case where it isn't
> there, you should just leave it as required. Remember, throwing an
> exception when something *exceptional* happens is okay, especially in
> tests!
>
> This was something that was drilled into me by Marcin, the former
> maintainer of Geb *and* hard experience. I saw more than one case where
> someone added `required: false` as a way to address flakiness in a test
> that only *hid* the flakiness and moved it downstream. And that someone
> was, often enough, me. AIs are even more prone to this kind of quick-fix,
> unhelpfully-defensive thinking, so it's probably best if we ward them off
> it out the gate.
>
> Best,
>
> Jonny
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 11:08 AM James Daugherty via dev <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> This was generated by an AI, but it is probably a good starting point:
>> https://gist.github.com/jdaugherty/f63781ff72c826b14f20fc3a2a41020e
>> If anyone has feedback, it would be most welcome.
>>
>> I know that some people are using services like https://skills.sh/ to
>> index skills.  Creating a dedicated repo for skills may be useful for
>> Groovy / Geb.
>>
>> -James
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 8:00 AM Jochen Theodorou <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 4/12/26 19:44, James Daugherty via dev wrote:
>> > > Hi Everyone,
>> > >
>> > > The Grails project has been gradually expanding its Geb test coverage
>> > > and as we've reviewed the old tests / improved on them, it's become
>> > > clear there are some best practices with Geb that we didn't always
>> > > follow.  This got me thinking: in the age of AI, the Grails team has
>> > > discussed including AI skills (https://agentskills.io/home) as part
>> of
>> > > our development process to better help adoption.  Has such a topic
>> > > been discussed for Geb?  Does anyone have a good starting skill for
>> > > Geb?
>> > Not me, but I would say to just write something and then let other
>> > people look over it to improve it.
>> >
>> > bye Jochen
>>
>

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