For me, def == var, in my mental model. Which means == Object.
>

This is how I was looking at it since that’s how it has been documented,
but it has not been implemented that way.

At this point of the discussion I understood it is a documentation issue,
but still something in my mind is telling me we should have def == var.

It would be groovier!

Cheers,
Gianluca

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On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 5:08 PM MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
>
Hi Rémi,
>>
>>    1. yes, I saw that, thank you.
>>       1. Most of the examples seemed obvious to me, and the bugs that
>>       could be introduced feel like they are a little bit on the artficial 
>> side.
>>    2. But, having said that: Inferring an interface type or a less
>>    specific parent type in some cases could imho be a very Groovy thing:
>>       1. e.g. inferring List<T> instead of ArrayList<T>
>>       2. Potentially through some explicit construct, such as "var>" to
>>       indicate that a more loose / interface type shall be used.
>>    3. Not that I see any of that becoming a reality anywhere in the near
>>    future... ;-)
>>
>> Cheers, mg
>>
>> PS: I googled a bit, and I could not find in general that ppl think var
>> in Java is something you should avoid. Instead, as with any language
>> feature, one can over-/abuse it, thereby making code less readable than
>> when using explicit types.
>> It is funny thinking about this in the context of Groovy, where
>> typically ppl who use it as a scripting language do not even use final
>> instead of def when defining variables, even though they will never
>> reassign said variable 99% of the time... ;-)
>>
>> There is an official guide that explains some of the gotchas
>>   https://openjdk.org/projects/amber/guides/lvti-style-guide
>>
>> regards,
>> Rémi
>>
>>
>>
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