I agree with Paul, There is no harm in having a CoC and to follow the
general ASF one.

I run GR8Conf, and we added a CoC for the conference, even without ever
having to use it, but it's nice to have, in case someone does misbehave. It
gives the organizers a tool to ask people to leave, if stepping over a
line.

The same goes for a CoC in an open source project like Groovy

Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
Søren Berg Glasius

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Den fre. 20. nov. 2020 kl. 06.09 skrev Paul King <pa...@asert.com.au>:

> I don't think anyone is suggesting we need a separate CoC. We just now
> have a short para which shows the link to the ASF one:
>
> https://github.com/apache/groovy/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md
>
> Groovy has been very lucky to have on the whole a very friendly community.
> I guess in any community you can have a wide range of views, a wide range
> of views of what constitutes acceptable behavior, and a wide range of views
> of what should be spelt out about civility. I see a CoC as being a line in
> the sand at one end of a spectrum. My experiences in the Groovy community
> is that we are at the other end of the spectrum entirely, but I don't want
> to presume to speak for others who may be more sensitive. I don't think we
> ever want a situation where we can't have robust discussions, but I see no
> harm in being explicit that we should respect one another as we do.
>
> Cheers, Paul.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 2:21 PM Konstantin Boudnik <c...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Ever since Linux Foundation started pushing the COC gags into ASF
>> projects I kept wondering if people won't behave in civil manner - just
>> like Paul has alluded to - unless they are explicitly told how to be
>> good boys and girls?
>>
>> Let me ask a perhaps naive but a very honest question: why do we really
>> need a COC? The ASF has some sort of it in the books already, why do we
>> need a separate one?
>>
>> Is it because Microsoft's github requires a checkmark due to their
>> virtue signaling being blown out of proportions? Or is it something else
>> that I am missing?
>>
>> If you prefer a private reply - be my guest. I really want to know.
>> Thank you!
>> ----
>> With regards,
>>    Cos
>>
>> On 18.11.2020 02:47, Paul King wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > We have been fortunate that most of the time, the discussions within
>> > our community are very respectful, so I don't think we need to have an
>> > elaborate discussion about a project-specific code of conduct. It seems
>> > worthwhile though, pointing to the general code of conduct established
>> > by the ASF[1] which I propose to do:
>> >
>> > https://github.com/apache/groovy/pull/1422
>> > <https://github.com/apache/groovy/pull/1422>
>> >
>> > Let me know if you see any possible improvements/issues.
>> >
>> > Thanks, Paul.
>> > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
>> > <https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html>
>> >
>>
>

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