On 24/02/2019 05:40, Paul King wrote:
Looking forward to seeing where it goes and hopefully with plenty of
Groovy :-)
It was a little disappointing when IBM pulled the plug on Project Zero:
https://searchmicroservices.techtarget.com/tip/Project-Zero-a-RESTful-new-beginning-for-IBM
That could have been a Domino replacement if steered in the right
direction.
I am not sure that would not have given up too many of the things that
make the platform powerful and unique (and having to use Websphere was
always going to be a big problem) - but we will never know. Alas IBM has
made so many half hearted attempts to modernize Domino over the years
(basing the Notes client on the Eclipse platform - without ever really
enticing people and giving them enough tool support to make them
consider developing Domino-Eclipse-apps; or the "JSF 1.5 + GUI editor"
XPages technology, that, in theory, would also have allowed RDBMS
development interwoven with the Domino document centric DB), which all
ended half baked. It always felt as if IBM never really knew what to do
with its long running product.
I hope & expect HCL to do a much better job at this - hopefully with a
lot of Groovy :-)
Cheers,
mg
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 5:14 AM MG <mg...@arscreat.com
<mailto:mg...@arscreat.com>> wrote:
Hi guys,
as some of you night know, IBM has sold IBM/Lotus Domino to HCL
(https://www.zdnet.com/article/ibm-sells-software-portfolio-including-notes-and-domino-to-hcl-for-1-8b/,
https://www.teamstudio.com/blog/why-ibms-sale-of-lotus-notes-to-hcl-is-a-good-thing).
While it is unclear what that means for the platform, it has always
seemed to me that Domino and Groovy would be a match made in heaven:
Groovy could (due to its static & dynamic nature, performance and
functional-orientation) replace all existing Domino languages: Java
(obviously; replace or extend), LotusScript (yup - replace ;-) ), and
Formula Language (Groovy itself, or the syntax compatible, high
performance Groovy variety coming with Elasticsearch
(https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/modules-scripting-painless.html)).
My question would be, if anyone has ever talked to the HCL people and
floated the idea, not solely, but also with regards to the fact that
some Open Collectives being funded by a single company (e.g.
https://opencollective.com/hyper-star-samsung-next-decentralization-grant).
Cheers,
mg
PS: I am a database/web developer who is formally part of a Domino
Notes
team (I used to do Domino development at the time of R5/6), and
nowadays
I only access Domino through the (excellent) OpenNTF Java API if
needed
(https://oda.openntf.org; using Groovy, of course G-) ), and I hear
about these developments from consultants/colleagues (who suffer
through
using LotusScript now that I have introduced them to Groovy G-) ),
so it
might very well be that information about the plans of HCL have
surfaced, which I am not aware of, which would make this idea mute...
PPS: For those who hate Domino/Notes, consider that it is one of the
only surviving RAD tools, while being based on one of the oldest,
proven, powerful & document-centric NoSQL databases. Imho, all it
would
need is a little Groovy push, to make this a truly impressive
platform... :-)
