The release notes are on the website repo - i.e., different repo/lifecycle to the code, so can be changed at any time. I'll be updating it throughout the day as time permits.
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 4:15 PM, mg <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote: > Great, excited, 2.5 really has a lot of really good stuff :-) > > -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------- > Von: Paul King <pa...@asert.com.au> > Datum: 30.05.18 05:59 (GMT+01:00) > An: dev@groovy.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Groovy 2.5 CliBuilder article (request for feedback) > > I have started the release process. I expect it to take a couple of hours. > I am hoping to be finished by the official start of the conference 9 am > Copenhagen time. > > Cheers, Paul. > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 9:49 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Paul, >> >> I’ve prepared a blog post on http://blogs.apache.org with the contents >> of this article. (DZone etc will follow later.) >> >> I understand that you want to announce Groovy 2.5 during gr8conf. I will >> try to sync the timing of the publication of the blog post with your >> announcement. >> >> Can you give me a date and time? >> >> Cheers, >> Remko >> >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 15:34 Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Cool! >>> Thanks again! >>> >>> >>> Remko >>> >>> On May 29, 2018, at 14:26, Paul King <pa...@asert.com.au> wrote: >>> >>> LGTM! >>> >>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for the clarification. I’ve made some changes based on your >>>> feedback. >>>> >>>> Please let me know if you spot any more. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> Remko >>>> >>>> (Shameless plug) Every java main() method deserves http://picocli.info >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2018, at 12:25, Paul King <pa...@asert.com.au> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Paul, >>>>> >>>>> I’ll change “annotating properties” to “annotating fields”. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I was suggesting the other way around. Field-like declarations in >>>> Groovy without an explicit visibility modifier are properties. That's what >>>> your examples show. >>>> >>>> >>>>> About “getter methods for interfaces” and “setter methods for >>>>> implementation classes”, I need to think about this some more but the >>>>> distinction is important. >>>>> >>>>> The annotations can be a bit “magic” for users who don’t know the >>>>> details of what happens under the hood. >>>>> >>>>> Without clear documentation users may try to use the annotations on >>>>> the “getter” method of an implementation class. >>>>> >>>>> I’ll try to improve the wording but the analogy with JavaBeans is >>>>> actually helpful rather than confusing, I think. Why do you think this >>>>> analogy should be avoided? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Other people may have a different understanding but I normally see >>>> setters as the term used for methods like setFoo, setBar, setBaz, etc. So >>>> that's exactly what we want it to mean for implementation classes. The >>>> setters will be there either explicitly or for all non readonly properties >>>> which will have automatic setters. >>>> >>>> The term "getters" is for methods like getFoo, getBar, getBaz etc. The >>>> interfaces you are showing don't have such methods, e.g. help(), users(), >>>> remaining(). There aren't setters, just interface methods. >>>> >>>> Paul. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Remko >>>>> >>>>> (Shameless plug) Every java main() method deserves http://picocli.info >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2018, at 4:11, Paul King <pa...@asert.com.au> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Looks great! >>>>> >>>>> Two minor points (and they are possibly flaws that also exist in the >>>>> Groovy doco - I haven't checked): >>>>> * I wouldn't use the term "getter methods of an interface", I'd just >>>>> use "methods of an interface". To avoid confusion with getter methods of >>>>> JavaBean style classes. >>>>> * I would use "annotating properties or setter methods" rather than >>>>> "annotating fields or setter methods" >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, Paul. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 3:03 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> All, >>>>>> >>>>>> I polished the Groovy 2.5 CliBuilder article some more >>>>>> (https://github.com/remkop/picocli/wiki/Groovy-2.5-CliBuilder-Renewal >>>>>> ). >>>>>> >>>>>> Feedback (positive or negative) would be great. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:40 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I finished a first draft of an article on Groovy 2.5 CliBuilder >>>>>>> (https://github.com/remkop/picocli/wiki/Groovy-2.5-CliBuilde >>>>>>> r-Renewal). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I plan to publish this on DZone and Java Code Geeks when complete. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd appreciate your feedback and suggestions for improvement! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Remko >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >