Hi Jesper, To fully support *real* lambda expression, (to be honest)currently I have no idea how to generate bytecode for it. In addition, supporting Static Compilation will be another big work…
* For instance, we could warn the user if the lambda referred to 'this' or 'super' directly. I think ‘this’ and ‘super’ can be referred but developers should not change its resolve strategy, so we can forbidden the scenario by syntax check 😊 I would like to open a new discussion based on our discussion in the dev-list later and wish others would think same with us to accept the closure with lambda syntax Cheers, Daniel.Sun 发件人: Jesper Steen Møller [via Groovy]<mailto:ml-node+s329449n5738478...@n5.nabble.com> 发送时间: 2017年2月7日 23:10 收件人: Daniel Sun<mailto:realblue...@hotmail.com> 主题: Lambda vs. Closure (was: [VOTE] Apache Groovy Roadmap) (changing the subject so we don't disrupt the main discussion) Not quite 😔 The changes in Java to support Lambdas are much deeper than just how the Metafactory is invokedynamic'ed, as it changes how type inference and overload resolution is done. Same as with the issues we discussed a while back around method references: Supporting Java8 semantics in the Groovy compiler is a very big task, as we just don't have the type information available. I would much rather suggest supporting the lambda syntax with groovy semantics, but add warnings if we detect that the code may rely on Java lambda semantics. For instance, we could warn the user if the lambda referred to 'this' or 'super' directly. -Jesper On 7 Feb 2017, at 16.00, Daniel Sun <[hidden email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5738478&i=0>> wrote: Hi Jochen, That’s great! Paul and Graeme are both afraid of future breaking changes of groovy’s lambda expression, which is currently based on closure. If we could generate *real* lambda bytecode for LambdaExpression, groovy’s lambda expression will behave same with Java8’s at runtime😊 Cheers, Daniel.Sun 发件人: <a href="x-msg://12/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5738477&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external" class="">[hidden email] 发送时间: 2017年2月7日 22:23 收件人: <a href="x-msg://12/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5738477&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external" class="">[hidden email] 主题: Re: [VOTE] Apache Groovy Roadmap On 07.02.2017 14:44, Daniel Sun wrote: > Hi Cédric, > > It seems that too many choices are a annoying problem, but I > believe we can conquer it sooner or later ;) > BTW, is it possible to keep groovy' lambda expression as it > is(i.e. groovy closure with lambda syntax) but generate *real* lambda > bytecode for > it(https://github.com/apache/groovy/blob/parrot/src/main/org/codehaus/groovy/ast/expr/LambdaExpression.java)? sure, you should make a visitLambdaExpression similar to visitClosureExpression and change our visitors bye Jochen ________________________________ If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/VOTE-Apache-Groovy-Roadmap-tp5738250p5738471.html To unsubscribe from [VOTE] Apache Groovy Roadmap, click here. NAML<http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> ________________________________ View this message in context: 答复: [VOTE] Apache Groovy Roadmap<http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/VOTE-Apache-Groovy-Roadmap-tp5738250p5738477.html> Sent from the Groovy Dev mailing list archive<http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Groovy-Dev-f372993.html> at Nabble.com<http://Nabble.com>. ________________________________ If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/VOTE-Apache-Groovy-Roadmap-tp5738250p5738478.html To unsubscribe from [VOTE] Apache Groovy Roadmap, click here<http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&node=5738250&code=cmVhbGJsdWVzdW5AaG90bWFpbC5jb218NTczODI1MHwxMTQ2MjE4MjI1>. NAML<http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> -- View this message in context: http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/VOTE-Apache-Groovy-Roadmap-tp5738250p5738481.html Sent from the Groovy Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.