@Mattias what are your thoughts here?  I was thinking of starting a vote,
and want to make sure everyone agrees.

On Mon, Jun 16, 2025 at 4:00 PM James Fredley <jamesfred...@apache.org>
wrote:

> After discussing this further this afternoon, I have changed my opinion
> from splitting grails-forge in half and am now onboard with bringing the
> whole grails-forge project over as a sub gradle project in grails-core.
>
> Splitting it in half was convenient for grails development volunteers, but
> would have made it more difficult for companies forking grails-forge, as
> their internal custom application generator.  It appears the whole project
> can be merged in a way that makes it streamlined for all.
>
> Having a single release workflow, instead of two, is important for release
> vote approval and review.
>
> James Fredley
>
> On 2025/06/16 19:28:18 James Daugherty wrote:
> > I discussed this more with James F to see if we can find other solutions.
> > I still think we should bring the full thing over.
> >
> > Some other thoughts:
> > 1. I am proposing we merge grails-forge as a sub gradle project to
> > grails-core only to facilitate easier publishing / building.  This means
> > locally there won't be any overhead if you run ./gradlew build in grails
> > core.  You'll still have to run gradle commands under the `grails-forge`
> > directory to test forge.
> > 2. By merging the full repo into grails-core as a nested gradle project,
> we
> > will get test coverage end-to-end as part of any PR. (we'll add steps to
> > build grails-forge & test it).
> > 3. Any upgrade to grails-forge-core will still have to be made against
> the
> > grails-forge repositories.  If we split these, we will have the old
> problem
> > of having separate repos - publishing in core, only to find out forge is
> > broken.  This was one of the strongest lessons of the grails mono repo.
> > 4. Anyone wanting to fork forge for custom app generation, will have to
> > fork core + fork forge to do so if we split it.  If we combine into one,
> it
> > helps both us and anyone wanting to fork forge since they can just change
> > the sub gradle project 'grails-forge' inside of grails-core.
> > 5. Having them both in grails-core means we have almost all steps in a
> > single release workflow with gated steps to release.  The exception will
> be
> > the deployment of forge-api itself.
> >
> > -James
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2025 at 12:37 PM James Fredley <jamesfred...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I lean towards merging the following 3 project into grails-core to
> > > simplify the release process and review during the release vote.
> > >
> > > grails-forge-core
> > > grails-forge-cli
> > > grails-cli
> > >
> > > And leaving the following, which are only used for the next.grails.org
> ,
> > > snapshot.grails.org, etc. instances by start.grails.org in the
> > > grails-forge repository.
> > >
> > > grails-forge-analytics-postgres
> > > grails-forge-api
> > > grails-forge-web-netty
> > >
> > > James Fredley
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2025/06/15 13:59:15 James Daugherty wrote:
> > > > Hi Everyone,
> > > >
> > > > One of the issues we found as part of our release process is that the
> > > > projects:
> > > >
> > > > grails-forge-core
> > > > grails-forge-cli
> > > > grails-cli
> > > >
> > > > exist in the grails-forge repo.  While they exist in a separate repo
> > > > (grails-forge), we still have to produce a combined source & binary
> > > > distribution with these artifacts for any grails-core release.  This
> is
> > > ASF
> > > > policy.  Having a separate repo complicates the release workflow for
> > > grails:
> > > >
> > > > 1. We have to provide instructions on how to compile both core &
> forge
> > > from
> > > > a source zip.
> > > > 2. Those instructions ideally use the same build process we use in
> CI.
> > > > Since we publish to a shared maven repo, this is currently not
> possible
> > > > without a custom build script or change to the local code to publish
> to
> > > > maven local.
> > > > 3. We have to manage a grails release across multiple tags, repos,
> and
> > > > workflows.
> > > >
> > > > #1 was raised by the groovy PMC as a concern and #2 makes this
> > > > non-trivial.  The concern raised by the groovy PMC is likely to act
> as a
> > > > blocker to future releases if we do not address this (it's an ASF
> > > > requirement).  For this reason, I'd like to discuss merging some or
> all
> > > of
> > > > grails-forge into core.  If we merge some, it would only be the
> projects
> > > > that are used in a grails-core release (listed above).  If we merge
> all
> > > ,it
> > > > would include the netty, api, etc projects.  Even though these
> projects
> > > are
> > > > only used by start.grails.org.
> > > >
> > > > What are people's thoughts on merging?  Should we merge all or only
> the
> > > > ones we need as part of a grails-core release?
> > > >
> > > > For my thoughts: I think merging all of the projects is better
> because we
> > > > know some end users fork grails-forge and it would be more
> convenient for
> > > > them to fork one repository instead of 2.  Basically, by merging
> > > partially,
> > > > it makes our life easier, and their life harder.  By merging both, we
> > > keep
> > > > it simple for everyone.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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