With the performance improvements I have seen after the previous merges,
and specifically the Gradle optimizations that were part of these, I
believe this is the way to go.

Thanks James, for leading the way!

Den tors 17 apr. 2025 kl 18:23 skrev David Estes <davydot...@gmail.com>:

> I too am in huge favor of this. I believe I have voiced my opinions over
> the past year that this should be the direction we should move. You will
> get no argument from me. Huge thanks for James work on making this
> performant and clean because it’s not enough just to make a mono repo. He
> has gone above and beyond here to make this a pleasant experience.
>
> Thank you James!
>
> David
>
> > On Apr 17, 2025, at 8:48 AM, James Fredley <jamesfred...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > James,
> >
> > Thank you for the extremely detailed outline of the benefits and reasons
> for finishing the move to a mono repo for the Core Grails Projects, by
> consolidating the remaining two.
> >
> > It is my belief that 1/3 or more of the time invested over the last 8-9
> months was spent on task that are eliminated by a mono repo.   Maybe 50%.
>  A mono repo makes releases simple vs taking days which was down from weeks
> per release.
> >
> > I am in favor of merging Grails-geb & Grails-data-mapping.
> >
> > The details for build time and mongo are well detailed here and I see a
> clear plan for how they will be addressed with changes before and after
> these two projects are merged into grails-core.
> >
> > I strongly believe that a mono repo is key to quickly iterating on
> Grails 7.0.x, 7.1.x and 8.0.x, this year.
> >
> > James Fredley
> >
> > On 2025/04/17 04:05:31 James Daugherty wrote:
> >> Hi Everyone,
> >>
> >> We've previously discussed [1] merging the grails-data-mapping repo into
> >> grails-core.  Other than grails-geb, this is the last remaining
> repository
> >> to merge into core to have a mono repo. This email attempts to summarize
> >> some of the previously expressed concerns and advocates for merging
> >> grails-data-mapping & grails-geb sooner rather than later.  Let's gather
> >> people's thoughts so we can determine if a vote thread is feasible.
> >>
> >> Some of the recent concerns that have been raised on merging data
> mapping
> >> are:
> >> * slower build times (both locally & in GitHub actions)
> >> * the requirement for mongodb
> >>
> >> To answer those concerns:
> >> ------------------------------------------------
> >> On slower build times:
> >> ------------------------------------------------
> >> The current grails-core should not be viewed as slow.  Across all of the
> >> recent mergers (cache, views, gradle plugins, docs), I've spent a lot of
> >> time optimizing the build.  These optimizations include:
> >> A. Converting a substantial amount of our build files to lazy
> >> initialization instead of eager initialization & updating the grails
> gradle
> >> plugins to make use of lazy where possible.  This means we only spend a
> >> total of 8.8 seconds in configuration in a project being built from
> >> scratch.
> >> B. Updating parts of the build & parts of the grails gradle plugins to
> be
> >> cacheable by defining inputs/outputs.  This means there's a higher
> chance
> >> that if a project dependency doesn't change, it won't rebuild now.
> >> C. Decoupling the gradle plugin dependencies so that there are not
> circular
> >> references & that its dependencies can be managed separately from
> >> application dependencies (we produce a grails-bom for applications &
> >> grails-gradle-bom for gradle usage now).
> >> D. Eliminating unnecessary steps or processes in the build (i.e. stream
> >> lining the docs workflow)
> >> E. Parallelizing the build where possible (there are known issues that
> >> prevent us from being fully parallel, but we're very close to almost all
> >> projects being able to be run in parallel).
> >> F. Fixing our dependency graphs so that we generate proper platform POMs
> >> and proper gradle modules so dependencies can be calculated correctly
> (and
> >> quickly).
> >> G. I have added properties to both configure tests that should run on an
> >> opt-in basis and an opt-out basis.  This allows selectively running
> tests
> >> by setting a system property on your build.  This allows further focused
> >> development when needed.
> >>
> >> The build for the grails-core library is now approximately 3 minutes if
> >> building from scratch on the most recent Mac hardware (assuming the
> >> libraries are already present locally).  The build also peeks at 1.5
> gig of
> >> memory usage.  It is also highly cacheable - only 30% of the tasks have
> >> remaining cache issues (namely ones related to gsp, gson, and asset
> >> compilation).  I believe long term we can get the typical build time
> down
> >> even lower by improving these processes to be cacheable by gradle, by
> >> further decoupling our build, and by further parallelization.  After
> >> merging grails-data-mapping, it should be possible to keep these build
> >> times down.
> >>
> >> Concerning the build times in github, the main slowness is caused by
> how we
> >> matrix test now with windows, mac, linux across different versions of
> the
> >> JVM.  We also get throttled more when we have to do this across every
> >> repository.  Having one repository will mean there's less of a chance of
> >> being throttled.  Moreover, we can pursue self hosted build agents to
> solve
> >> this in the long term.  In the short term, if it really becomes an
> issue,
> >> we can enable gradle caching which will result in very little code
> having
> >> to run to the aforementioned improvements.
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------
> >> On the requirement for mongodb
> >> ------------------------------------------------
> >> The requirement for a running mongodb causes several issues:
> >> A. It forces the build to be synchronous for testing mongo related
> projects
> >> (plugin, mongo core, mongo ext, mongo bson, mongo templates, tck for
> mongo,
> >> etc)
> >> B. It requires the user to have a running mongo instance.
> >>
> >> We know that B. is fixable by running a mongodb container.  More over,
> if
> >> it could be run for each project, then that also solves the synchronous
> >> execution.  We know that running a docker container for B is trivial and
> >> grails development already requires a container runtime to run it's
> >> functional tests with geb.  The command for this is: `docker run -d
> --name
> >> mongo-on-docker  -p 27017:27017 mongo`
> >>
> >> A. will then be fixed if we can spin up a container over the lifecycle
> of a
> >> given project's tests.  For example, we could use test containers prior
> to
> >> the GrailsApp.run() call in Application.groovy to ensure one exists per
> >> application.  There will need to be some configuration rework, but it
> >> shouldn't be too hard to accomplish longer term.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------
> >> As for why we should merge these libraries:
> >> ------------------------------------------------
> >> 1. While working on the merges of the previous builds, I have discovered
> >> numerous validations that gradle performs (circular dependencies, etc)
> that
> >> were not being performed when these builds are separate.  Combined, we
> get
> >> the benefit of gradle warning us about circular dependencies and
> benefiting
> >> from this feedback.
> >>
> >> 2. Somewhat related, we can institute code standards, code styles, and
> code
> >> quality scans in a centralized manner.
> >>
> >> 3. Seperate from Gradle's validations, we can implement our own gradle
> >> plugins local to the grails-core repo that will enforce architecture
> >> separation - this includes ensuring that gsp & gorm can be used
> separately
> >> from Grails in the long run.
> >>
> >> 4. If a gradle project that is a dependency of grails-core is partially
> >> published, it will break functional tests in all repositories.  This
> means
> >> you have to comment the tests out across repositories until all
> artifacts
> >> are published again. Inside of the same project, this issue does not
> exist.
> >>
> >> 3. The iteration time on development is vastly improved in a single
> >> repository.  The optimizations I made to the gradle plugin took seconds
> to
> >> test and I would not have been able to make them in separate projects in
> >> less than a day.  The feedback loop is a significant time saver.  What
> >> would take 20-30minutes due to build publishing before I was doing in
> >> seconds.  The gradle plugin changes would likely have taken over a week
> (or
> >> longer) if these plugins were still in a separate repository.
> >>
> >> 4. The known issues with grails-data-mapping are not major blockers.
> While
> >> they may initially slow the build times, we can address the majority of
> the
> >> time by solving the mongo problem.  We have an initial approach that
> works,
> >> we'll just need to adjust the configuration in the mongo projects to
> >> connect to different containers.
> >>
> >> 5. Having a mono repo ensures that any change to Grails will be tested
> >> fully.  Several of us have spent a significant amount of time chasing
> down
> >> bugs, that we later have discovered are due to someone only running the
> >> tests in the project.  If someone changes code related to the core of
> >> grails, they must run all of the associated tests.  In a mono project,
> this
> >> happens locally during development. Outside of it, it happens by users
> >> discovering the bug in a milestone.
> >>
> >> 6. Spending time on the build process - the github action release
> workflow,
> >> etc - is a significant problem.  We don't want to be working on a build
> >> process.  We want to be developing code and fixing bugs for grails.
> >>
> >> 7. Spring Boot & Hibernate will have major upgrades on a more regular
> basis
> >> going forward.  To make the changes necessary, we don't want to be
> working
> >> on separate processes.  We need to adopt a more rapid release schedule
> and
> >> react to library upgrades faster so that we don't end up in the
> situation
> >> we have been in for Grails 7.  The reason Grails 7 development has
> taken so
> >> incredibly long, is we're updating some libraries that are over 4 years
> >> old.  The technical debt can be prevented by updating more often and
> >> staying up to date with upstream libraries - which also ensures the
> >> security of the framework.
> >>
> >> 8. Apache's release process requires a security review.  This security
> >> review ensures that builds are not being tampered with and our current
> >> release process across many repos requires build tampering.  We
> eventually
> >> stop modifying a build, but to be able to release a milestone sooner
> with
> >> the apache coordinates, we need to be in one repository.
> >>
> >> 9. We no longer have admin rights to the GitHub organization we are
> under.
> >> One of the discoveries we made after moving, was that we can't trigger
> >> workflow actions from one repo to another.  Being in one repository,
> means
> >> we don't have to do that and infrastructure does not need to find work
> >> arounds for our existing processes.
> >>
> >> 10. Contributing to grails will be made easier for newer contributors.
> >> They wont' have to learn to build projects in certain orders or how to
> work
> >> around issues when something fails.
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm sure I've forgotten several of the reasons, but I'd like to propose
> we
> >> go to a mono repo for the core libraries that make up a grails release.
> >> Data mapping & geb are the only ones that remain to have this.  I'd
> like to
> >> fast track this and deal with the mongo / slowness after merge.  I
> believe
> >> we can resolve these issues and by merging sooner we can get to
> releasing
> >> the first milestone under Apache.
> >>
> >> -James
> >>
> >> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/sfzzzbb1zo6k4w8hz0ro13wx4n4jyhr6
> >>
>
>

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