Just to make sure I understand.  a +1 on this to me means there may be a
module created in geronimo.  Maybe not.  But either way it shouldn't stop
what TomEE is doing.

On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 8:59 PM David Blevins <[email protected]>
wrote:

> My vote would be -0 and I hesitate even for a negative anything.
>
> I think the "Geronimo will do it anyway, collaborate or not" perspective
> feels a bit like an ultimatum.  That said, if people truly do want to move
> on regardless of what happens in TomEE, that's exactly what should happen.
>
> I feel strongly that a project should not be obstructed by other projects
> who feel ownership over an domain, be forced to collaborate, or otherwise
> be stopped in their tracks.
>
> Here's how I'd like my vote read:
>
>  - Waiting to see what TomEE decides or creates would be ideal in my mind,
> but not necessary if there is support for moving forward
>
>  - I wouldn't help, but I wouldn't stand in the way
>
>  - I continue to have reservations naming reusable components after a dead
> app server.  I managed to have all my best efforts remain perfectly
> invisible under the name "OpenEJB" and "EJB."  If people want to put effort
> into reforming the 15 year-old Geronimo brand, they are welcome to do so,
> but I can't sign up for that again.  I can't pretend this isn't a
> significant obstacle.
>
>  - I continue to feel we'd be stronger together (TomEE and Geronimo).
> With these false lines making everyone have to get commit twice and hiding
> our best work under a dead website and brand, we aren't getting the
> strength and speed we need.
>
>
> As long as I feel understood, not pushed into doing something I don't want
> to do, I'm more than happy.
>
>
> -David
>
> > On Mar 18, 2018, at 5:05 PM, David Blevins <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Two votes are up in the TomEE community on what to do with PR #123 (
> https://github.com/apache/tomee/pull/123 ).  The first vote is if TomEE
> should merge it.  The second vote is if TomEE should attempt to extract it.
> >
> > It was said 3-4 times in the discussion between both communities
> "geronimo will have a jwt-auth impl."  This is absolutely ok, there is no
> rule that two projects cannot do the same or similar thing.  Apache Tamaya
> exists and there is a Geronimo Config, both aim at MicroProfile Config
> compliance.  This is OK by ASF standards and one community is not judged
> good or bad for choosing to also implement something.
> >
> > That said, decisions like this should be made by the project clearly.
> Some people may want to move ahead now.  Some people may want to wait and
> see how things go with TomEE.
> >
> > Vote: Move ahead with creating a reusable JWT module
> >
> > +1 Let's get on this, now.  There may be two impls, but that's ok.
> > -+0
> > -1 Let's wait / maybe later / other
> >
> >
> > -David
> >
>
>

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