That sounds like a good option.

Might be worth stating that explicitly in the FLIP.

No other questions from me - will be a nice extension!

Ryan van Huuksloot
Staff Engineer, Infrastructure | Streaming Platform
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On Thu, Aug 14, 2025 at 12:22 PM Yuepeng Pan <panyuep...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi, Hi, Ryan van Huuksloot.
>
> >Are you planning on having a thread to check for TTL? Or what is the plan
> >for TTL?
> >The quantity based would have a check when a new job is archived?
>
> Just like the implementation in the POC[1], if we continue following the
> process where
> HistoryServer#start method periodically invokes
> HistoryServerArchiveFetcher#fetchArchives
> based on 'historyserver.archive.fs.refresh-interval' to check
> whether target files should be retained, what do you think about it ?
> Of course, I'm very open to hearing about other potentially better
> implementation approaches.
> Please let me know what's your opinion.
> Thank you.
>
> [1] https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/26902
>
> Best,
> Yuepeng Pan
>
>
> On 2025/08/14 16:07:10 Ryan van Huuksloot wrote:
> > Thanks, sounds good.
> >
> > Are you planning on having a thread to check for TTL? Or what is the plan
> > for TTL?
> > The quantity based would have a check when a new job is archived?
> >
> > Ryan van Huuksloot
> > Staff Engineer, Infrastructure | Streaming Platform
> > [image: Shopify]
> > <https://www.shopify.com/?utm_medium=salessignatures&utm_source=hs_email
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2025 at 12:04 PM Yuepeng Pan <panyuep...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, Ryan van Huuksloot.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much for your reply. > Question: Is the History Server
> then
> > > going to delete the files stored? > (i.e. we use GCS, would it delete
> the
> > > files there as well?) > Or is this strictly what is shown in the UI?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, this feature introduced in the FLIP is a super-set of the original
> > > feature that is controlled by 'historyserver.archive.retained-jobs'.
> > >
> > > So if I understand correctly, after the new feature is introduced, it
> > > would affect the retention period of remote distributed storage jobs
> > > history files as well, not only for what is shown in the UI.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Yuepeng Pan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 2025-08-14 23:34:54, "Ryan van Huuksloot"
> > > <ryan.vanhuuksl...@shopify.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > > >I took a look. Overall it would be nice to have more ways to
> configure the
> > > >History Server.
> > > >
> > > >Question: Is the History Server then going to delete the files stored?
> > > >(i.e. we use GCS, would it delete the files there as well?)
> > > >Or is this strictly what is shown in the UI?
> > > >
> > > >Ryan van Huuksloot
> > > >Staff Engineer, Infrastructure | Streaming Platform
> > > >[image: Shopify]
> > > ><
> https://www.shopify.com/?utm_medium=salessignatures&utm_source=hs_email>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Thu, Aug 14, 2025 at 11:17 AM Yuepeng Pan <panyuep...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Bumping this thread. Thanks!
> > > >>
> > > >> Best,
> > > >> Yuepeng Pan
> > > >>
> > > >> On 2025/08/11 03:49:27 Yuepeng Pan wrote:
> > > >> > Hi community,
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Currently, HistoryServer supports only a quantity-based job
> archive
> > > >> retention policy [1].
> > > >> > This is insufficient for scenarios such as:
> > > >> > - Time-based retention (e.g., last X days).
> > > >> > - Combined rules (e.g., within 7 days AND ≤100 jobs).
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > To address these limitations, I’d like to start a discussion on
> > > FLIP-490
> > > >> [2],
> > > >> > which proposes a more flexible job archive retention mechanism
> that
> > > >> supports time-based, quantity-based, and composite strategies (with
> > > AND/OR
> > > >> logic).
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Looking forward to your feedback.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Best,
> > > >> > Yuepeng Pan
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > [1]
> > > >>
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/cae5fb4d3b6d9e0c10c3539ea4994fc1ad463b70/flink-runtime-web/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/runtime/webmonitor/history/HistoryServer.java#L241
> > > >> > [2]
> > > >>
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=332499857
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>

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