Thanks for the summary!

+1 to upgrade Pekko to have netty 4 in 1.19.2 and 1.20.1 releases.

Thanks.
Luke

On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 7:50 PM He Pin <he...@apache.org> wrote:

> +1 to Netty 4
>
> On 2025/01/16 15:12:40 Alexander Fedulov wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We have one remaining blocker for the 1.19.2 and 1.20.1 releases, namely
> > the issue associated with ticket FLINK-36510: *"Upgrade Pekko from 1.0.1
> to
> > 1.1.2"* [1]. Here is the context:
> >
> >    - The flink-rpc module is currently based on Pekko 1.0.1, which
> bundles
> >    Netty version 3.10.6. Netty 3.10.6 is the last 3.x release and
> officially
> >    reached EOL more than eight years ago. It contains at least 20 known
> >    critical vulnerabilities [2].
> >    - FLINK-36510 [1] upgrades flink-rpc to Pekko 1.1.2, which introduces
> a
> >    long-awaited migration to Netty 4.x.
> >    - Memory allocation in Netty 4.x differs from Netty 3.x and has a
> larger
> >    memory footprint with default settings [3].
> >    - Norman Mauerer, Netty's project lead, strongly recommends moving
> away
> >    from Netty 3 as soon as possible [4].
> >    - According to Norman, setting -Dio.netty.allocator.type=unpooled
> should
> >    approximate Netty 3's memory behavior at the expense of performance
> >    improvements that Netty 4 would otherwise provide. That said, Netty 4
> with
> >    -Dio.netty.allocator.type=unpooled is not expected to perform worse
> than
> >    Netty 3.
> >    - Although this change might seem too substantial for a patch
> release, I
> >    propose proceeding with it due to the accumulated risks of staying on
> Netty
> >    3.10.6. This will need to be addressed in a 1.20 as a patch release
> anyway,
> >    given that 1.20 is designated as LTS, and we can expect Netty 3 to
> accrue
> >    even more CVEs over time.
> >
> > Here you can find more details of the ongoing discussion [5].
> >
> > Looking forward to hearing the community's thoughts on whether we should
> > proceed with the proposed changes.
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-36510
> > [2] https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/io.netty/netty/3.10.6.Final
> > [3]
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-36510?focusedCommentId=17911219&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-17911219
> > [4] https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/25866#issuecomment-2595168560
> > [5] https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/25866
> >
> > Best,
> > Alex
> >
>

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