Thanks for your clarification. Looking forward to the following FLIPs.

Best,
Shengkai

Gabor Somogyi <gabor.g.somo...@gmail.com> 于2024年12月23日周一 18:32写道:

> Hi Shengkai,
>
> Thanks for your comments.
>
> Both state catalog and metadata tables are on the roadmap but not in this
> FLIP.
> The main approach is to do things incrementally in order to avoid
> infinite discussion threads and 10k+ lines pull requests.
>
> Just to give some teaser, this is how I can roughly imagine upcoming FLIPs
> (unordered):
> - Expose state metadata on data stream API
> - Add metadata support for the SQL connector
> - Add non-keyed/operator state data support for the SQL connector
> - Add state catalog
>
> BR,
> G
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2024 at 2:46 AM Shengkai Fang <fskm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > Thanks Gabor's great FLIP. It is very useful for many cases. But I have
> > some suggestions about this FLIP:
> >
> > 1. It's better to introduce a state Catalog that helps users to translate
> > the state information to a table schema. The state catalog uses
> > `<operator_name>`.`<state_name>` to find required state and uses state
> > descriptor to restore the schema.
> > 2. Can the connector provide more metadata information for users? For
> > example, the `ttl` field is very useful in our cases.
> >
> > Best,
> > Shengkai
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gabor Somogyi <gabor.g.somo...@gmail.com> 于2024年12月19日周四 21:41写道:
> >
> > > Hi Yanquan,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the question, please see the FLIP content related this.
> > >
> > > ---BEGIN FLIP CONTENT---
> > > The target of this implementation proposal is to provide SQL support
> for
> > > keyed states. Other types are going to be covered in further FLIP
> > > documents.
> > > ---END FLIP CONTENT---
> > >
> > > Keyed state data which is defined by users in for example process
> > > functions, operator or non-keyed state data is defined by internal
> Flink
> > > operators for example sources/sinks.
> > > In short, we're intended to add this support later on which means that
> > > further configuration parameters needs to be added.
> > >
> > > BR,
> > > G
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 2:12 PM Yanquan Lv <decq12y...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi, Gabor. Thanks for driving this FLIP and this immediately reminded
> > me
> > > > of exploring the status of the Source connector like Kafka or
> MySQLCDC
> > to
> > > > understand the progress of reading information.
> > > >
> > > > In SourceOperator, the state of reader in contained in a ListState
> > named
> > > > `SourceReaderState`[1], however, the state type of
> `SourceReaderState`
> > is
> > > > `byte[]`, so I am worried that we can't get any understandable
> > > information
> > > > using this connector. Do we consider supporting this scenario?
> > > >
> > > > If we want to support this scenario, perhaps we need to add more
> > > > parameters like fields.#.state-version-serializer and
> > > > fields.#.state-version to To specify the org.apache.flink.core.io
> > > .SimpleVersionedSerializer[2]
> > > > and version to be used, And it also requires more complex
> > implementation.
> > > >
> > > > Do I have any misunderstandings? Is this requirement something we
> need
> > to
> > > > support, or will it need support in the future.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/9e38f32889e097f5a9b81f949643a2b037c1035c/flink-runtime/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/streaming/api/operators/SourceOperator.java#L109
> > > > [2]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/9e38f32889e097f5a9b81f949643a2b037c1035c/flink-core/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/core/io/SimpleVersionedSerializer.java#L50
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > 2024年12月18日 17:43,Gabor Somogyi <gabor.g.somo...@gmail.com> 写道:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd like to start a discussion of FLIP-496: SQL connector for keyed
> > > state
> > > > > data [1].
> > > > > Feel free to add your thoughts to make this feature better.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-496%3A+SQL+connector+for+keyed+state+data
> > > > >
> > > > > BR,
> > > > > G
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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