Thanks Junrui for starting this discussion!
Prior to this, it takes some experience to correctly distinguish whether a
configuration item is effective at CLUSTER or JOB level, and this proposal
avoids such a burden.
And the FLIP looks good to me.


Best,
Yanquan

Zhu Zhu <reed...@gmail.com> 于2024年10月9日周三 17:14写道:

> Thanks Junrui for starting this discussion!
> +1 for the proposal
>
> Clarifying the scopes of config options can be beneficial for users.
> Even Flink developers occasionally encounter confusion regarding the
> scopes of various configurations, such as attempting to retrieve
> job-specific settings from `TaskExecutor#taskManagerConfiguration`.
> Clarifying the options' scopes in documentation can be a good reference
> and reminder.
>
> Thanks,
> Zhu
>
> Junrui Lee <jrlee....@gmail.com> 于2024年10月9日周三 11:08写道:
>
> > Hi devs,
> >
> > I would like to initiate a discussion about FLIP-478: Introduce Config
> > Option Scope
> >
> > Currently, Flink can be configured in various ways. Taking a session job
> as
> > an example:
> >
> > 1. When the session cluster starts, the JobManager (JM) and TaskManager
> > (TM) load the configuration files config.yaml from specified directory on
> > their respective machines, merging them with command line parameters (-D)
> > to form their component configuration.
> >
> > 2. When submitting a job, the client loads its local configuration file
> and
> > merges it with configuration within the job code and command line
> > parameters to obtain the job configuration.
> >
> > When this job is submitted to the session cluster, the values of
> > cluster-level config options, such as the memory for JM and TM, will be
> > defined by the JM/TM configuration. And the values of job-level config
> > options, such as parallelism, will be defined by the job configuration.
> > Additionally, some config options will fall back to the values defined in
> > the configuration from JM/TM if their values are not defined in job
> > configuration, such as restart strategies.
> >
> > However, it can be confusing for users to know where to set a config
> > option. For example, we've received several bug reports from users saying
> > that taskmanager.numberOfTaskSlots doesn’t take effect, which turned out
> to
> > be because they mistakenly configured it in the job code.
> >
> > As a result, we intend to introduce the concept of Config Option Scope to
> > help users understand the proper way to configure each config option. And
> > the scopes should be displayed in Flink configuration documentation.
> >
> > For more details, please refer to FLIP-478 [1]. Looking forward to your
> > feedback.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Junrui Lee
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-478+Introduce+Config+Option+Scope
> >
>

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