David, Junrui,

Is there a brief description of the prerequisites for compiled plan-based
submission?

Cheers,

Jim

On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 3:55 AM David Morávek <d...@apache.org> wrote:

> Thanks, Junrui, for the summary, and Zhu, I appreciate the detailed offline
> conversation. It was incredibly helpful in aligning on our north star for
> job submission.
>
> We’ve agreed that FLIP-468 serves as a temporary solution with acceptable
> risks regarding API stability, which are outweighed by the new features and
> opportunities it brings. Our long-term goal remains to transition to a
> compiled plan-based submission once the necessary prerequisites are in
> place.
>
> Let’s proceed with the voting. I’m giving a +1 from my side.
>
> Thanks for bearing with me.
>
> Best,
> D.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 4:04 PM Junrui Lee <jrlee....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > David, Zhu and I had an offline discussion about FLIP-468 and more. Here
> > are the key points:
> > 1. Flink lacks a stable public REST API for job submission. Such a public
> > REST API will allow users to create and store compiled plans of jobs, and
> > to directly submit/resumit these plans. It can be helpful for making job
> > plans more stable across versions, speeding up job submission, and
> > supporting version-less job submission clients.
> > 2. FLIP-468 mainly focuses on how to enable JobMaster/Scheduler to see
> and
> > understand StreamGraph. It is applicable for both SQL and DataStream
> jobs.
> > This FLIP will modify the existing jobgraph submission REST API. But that
> > is an internal API for Flink clients and the change will not affect
> users.
> > Therefore, it does not conflict with the target of #1.
> >
> > The conclusion is:
> > 1. We will continue with FLIP-468 as is.
> > 2. Later we will consider how to introduce a pubic REST API for job
> > submission. This will happen in another FLIP.
> >
> > Thanks David and Zhu for the inputs and thoughts.
> > As the content of FLIP-468 is not changed, we will continue the voting
> > using the previous voting ML[1].
> >
> > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/d7md9bprfhynjfq7vy8dqld2dn9lf0ob
> >
> > Best,
> > Junrui
> >
> > David Morávek <d...@apache.org> 于 2024年7月29日周一 16:53写道:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I hope this message finds you well. I recently returned from a two-week
> > > vacation and apologize for the delay in my response.
> > >
> > > There are still a few crucial questions, especially regarding how this
> > will
> > > work with streaming that need to be addressed. Therefore, I would like
> to
> > > temporarily cast a -1 vote until these outstanding issues are resolved.
> > > I'll provide more detailed in the discussion thread.
> > >
> > > Thank you for your understanding.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > D.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 9:30 AM Zhanghao Chen <
> zhanghao.c...@outlook.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for driving it. +1 (non-binding)
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Zhanghao Chen
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Junrui Lee <jrlee....@gmail.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2024 11:02
> > > > To: dev@flink.apache.org <dev@flink.apache.org>
> > > > Subject: [VOTE] FLIP-468: Introducing StreamGraph-Based Job
> Submission
> > > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for all the feedback about FLIP-468: Introducing
> > StreamGraph-Based
> > > > Job Submission [1]. The discussion thread can be found here [2].
> > > >
> > > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours unless there are any
> > > objections
> > > > or insufficient votes.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Junrui
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-468%3A+Introducing+StreamGraph-Based+Job+Submission
> > > >
> > > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/l65mst4prx09rmloydn64z1w1zp8coyz
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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