Hi Yuxin, +1 for this proposal. This change will greatly alleviate the pressure on local storage resources (especially when there is limited local storage) particularly in the context of cloud-native environments.
Regards, Jeyhun On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 1:20 PM Yuxin Tan <tanyuxinw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Thanks for all the feedback and suggestions so far. > > If there is no further comment, we will open the voting thread tomorrow. > > Best, > Yuxin > > > Yuxin Tan <tanyuxinw...@gmail.com> 于2024年6月6日周四 15:40写道： > > > Thanks Zhu for the suggestion. > > I have updated the description of the option. > > > > Best, > > Yuxin > > > > > > Zhu Zhu <reed...@gmail.com> 于2024年6月6日周四 14:59写道： > > > >> +1 > >> > >> Maybe explain in the description of > >> `taskmanager.network.hybrid-shuffle.external-remote-tier-factory.class` > >> that it only accepts Celeborn as the remote shuffle tier at this moment? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Zhu > >> > >> Junrui Lee <jrlee....@gmail.com> 于2024年6月6日周四 13:49写道： > >> > >> > Thanks Yuxin for your answer. +1 for this proposal. > >> > > >> > Best, > >> > Junrui. > >> > > >> > Yuxin Tan <tanyuxinw...@gmail.com> 于2024年6月6日周四 13:42写道： > >> > > >> > > Thanks Junrui for your question. > >> > > > >> > > > I wonder if the current interface design support the > >> > > future adaptation for batch job recovery > >> > > > >> > > I noticed that FLIP-383 supports batch job recovery by introducing > >> > > some new APIs. These APIs can also be added to the Tier-related > >> > > interfaces to facilitate the feature. Since these modifications are > >> not > >> > > directly related to the current integration tasks and the > integration > >> > > does not conflict with the batch job recovery, I propose that this > >> FLIP > >> > > doesn't involve these particular changes. Moreover, considering that > >> > > the Tier interfaces are not public currently, it is also feasible to > >> add > >> > > the interfaces directly if necessary. > >> > > WDYT? > >> > > > >> > > Best, > >> > > Yuxin > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Junrui Lee <jrlee....@gmail.com> 于2024年6月6日周四 11:02写道： > >> > > > >> > > > Thanks Yuxin for driving this proposal! > >> > > > > >> > > > I have a question about the public interface compatibility in the > >> > context > >> > > > of FLIP-459. As we've supported batch job recovery from jobMaster > >> > > failures > >> > > > in FLIP-383 which will be released in Flink 1.20. I wonder if the > >> > current > >> > > > interface design support the future adaptation for batch job > >> recovery? > >> > > > > >> > > > Looking forward to your feedback. > >> > > > > >> > > > Best, > >> > > > Junrui. > >> > > > > >> > > > weijie guo <guoweijieres...@gmail.com> 于2024年6月5日周三 10:13写道： > >> > > > > >> > > > > Thanks Yuxin for the proposal! > >> > > > > > >> > > > > When we first proposed Hybrid Shuffle, I wanted to support > >> pluggable > >> > > > > storage tier in the future. However, limited by the architecture > >> of > >> > the > >> > > > > legacy Hybrid Shuffle at that time, this idea has not been > >> realized. > >> > > The > >> > > > > new architecture abstracts the tier nicely, and now it's time to > >> > > > introduce > >> > > > > support for external storage. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Big +1 for this one! > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Best regards, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Weijie > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > rexxiong <rexxi...@apache.org> 于2024年6月5日周三 00:08写道： > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks Yuxin for the proposal. +1, as a member of the Apache > >> > > Celeborn > >> > > > > > community, I am very excited about the integration of Flink's > >> > Hybrid > >> > > > > > Shuffle with Apache Celeborn. The whole design of CIP-6 looks > >> good > >> > to > >> > > > > me. I > >> > > > > > am looking forward to this integration. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks, > >> > > > > > Jiashu Xiong > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Ethan Feng <ethanf...@apache.org> 于2024年6月4日周二 16:47写道： > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > +1 for this proposal. > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > After internally reviewing the prototype of CIP-6, this > would > >> > > improve > >> > > > > > > performance and stability for Flink users using Celeborn. > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Expect to see this feature come out to the community. > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > As I come from the Celeborn community, I hope more users can > >> try > >> > to > >> > > > > > > use Celeborn when there are Flink batch jobs. > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks, > >> > > > > > > Ethan Feng > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Yuxin Tan <tanyuxinw...@gmail.com> 于2024年6月4日周二 16:34写道： > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi, Venkatakrishnan, > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks for joining the discussion. We appreciate your > >> interest > >> > > > > > > > in contributing to the work. Once the FLIP and CIP > proposals > >> > > > > > > > have been approved, we will create some JIRA tickets in > >> Flink > >> > > > > > > > and Celeborn projects. Please feel free to take a look at > >> the > >> > > > > > > > tickets and select any that resonate with your interests. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Best, > >> > > > > > > > Yuxin > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Venkatakrishnan Sowrirajan <vsowr...@asu.edu> > 于2024年5月31日周五 > >> > > > 23:11写道： > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks for this FLIP. We are also interested in > >> > > > > learning/contributing > >> > > > > > > to > >> > > > > > > > > the hybrid shuffle integration with celeborn for batch > >> > > > executions. > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 28, 2024, 7:07 PM Yuxin Tan < > >> > > tanyuxinw...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hi, Xintong, > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I think we can also publish the prototype codes so > >> the > >> > > > > > > > > > community can better understand and help with it. > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Ok, I agree on the point. I will prepare and publish > the > >> > code > >> > > > > > > > > > recently. > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Rui, > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Kindly reminder: the image of CIP-6[1] cannot be > >> loaded. > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reminder. I've updated the images. > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Best, > >> > > > > > > > > > Yuxin > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Rui Fan <1996fan...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月29日周三 09:33写道： > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Yuxin for driving this proposal! > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Kindly reminder: the image of CIP-6[1] cannot be > >> loaded. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > [1] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CELEBORN/CIP-6*Support*Flink*hybrid*shuffle*integration*with*Apache*Celeborn__;KysrKysrKys!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!ZRTc1aUSYMDBazuIwlet1Dzk2_DD9qKTgoDLH9jSwAVLgwplcuId_8JoXkH0i7AeWxKWXkL0sxM3AeW-H9OJ6v9uGw$ > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Best, > >> > > > > > > > > > > Rui > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 9:03 AM Xintong Song < > >> > > > > > > tonysong...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for this proposal. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > We have been prototyping this feature internally > at > >> > > Alibaba > >> > > > > > for a > >> > > > > > > > > > couple > >> > > > > > > > > > > of > >> > > > > > > > > > > > months. Yuxin, I think we can also publish the > >> > prototype > >> > > > > codes > >> > > > > > > so the > >> > > > > > > > > > > > community can better understand and help with it. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Xintong > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 8:34 PM Yuxin Tan < > >> > > > > > > tanyuxinw...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to start a discussion on FLIP-459 > >> > Support > >> > > > > Flink > >> > > > > > > hybrid > >> > > > > > > > > > > > shuffle > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > integration with > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache Celeborn[1]. Flink hybrid shuffle > supports > >> > > > > transitions > >> > > > > > > > > between > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > memory, disk, and > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > remote storage to improve performance and job > >> > > stability. > >> > > > > > > > > > Concurrently, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache Celeborn > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > provides a stable, performant, scalable remote > >> > shuffle > >> > > > > > service. > >> > > > > > > > > This > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > integration proposal is to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > harness the benefits from both hybrid shuffle > and > >> > > > Celeborn > >> > > > > > > > > > > > simultaneously. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Note that this proposal has two parts. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. The Flink-side modifications are in > >> FLIP-459[1]. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. The Celeborn-side changes are in CIP-6[2]. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to everyone's feedback and > >> > suggestions. > >> > > > > Thank > >> > > > > > > you! > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-459*3A*Support*Flink*hybrid*shuffle*integration*with*Apache*Celeborn__;JSsrKysrKysr!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!ZRTc1aUSYMDBazuIwlet1Dzk2_DD9qKTgoDLH9jSwAVLgwplcuId_8JoXkH0i7AeWxKWXkL0sxM3AeW-H9MaOGE7hQ$ > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [2] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CELEBORN/CIP-6*Support*Flink*hybrid*shuffle*integration*with*Apache*Celeborn__;KysrKysrKys!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!ZRTc1aUSYMDBazuIwlet1Dzk2_DD9qKTgoDLH9jSwAVLgwplcuId_8JoXkH0i7AeWxKWXkL0sxM3AeW-H9OJ6v9uGw$ > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yuxin > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >
