Hi Becket,

Thanks a lot, I have no problem any more. And I have made further
modifications to FLIP-389[1].
In summary, this flip has 2 goals:

   - Annotate SingleThreadFetcherManager as PublicEvolving.
   - Shield FutureCompletingBlockingQueue from users and limit all
   operations on FutureCompletingBlockingQueue in SplitFetcherManager.

All the changes are listed below:

   - Mark constructor of SourceReaderBase and
   SingleThreadMultiplexSourceReaderBase as @Depricated and provide a new
   constructor without FutureCompletingBlockingQueue.
   - Mark SplitFetcherManager andSingleThreadFetcherManager as
   `@PublicEvolving`,  mark constructor of SplitFetcherManager and
   SingleThreadFetcherManager as  @Depricated and provide a new constructor
   without FutureCompletingBlockingQueue.
   - SplitFetcherManager provides  wrapper methods for
   FutureCompletingBlockingQueue  to replace its usage in SourceReaderBase.
   - Mark SplitFetcher and SplitFetcherTask as PublicEvolving.


Any additional questions regarding this FLIP? Looking forward to hearing
from you.

Thanks,
Hongshun Wang

[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=278465498




On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:15 AM Becket Qin <becket....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Hongshun,
>
> The constructor of the SplitFetcher is already package private. So it can
> only be accessed from the classes in the package
> org.apache.flink.connector.base.source.reader.fetcher. And apparently, user
> classes should not be in this package. Therefore, even if we mark the
> SplitFetcher class as PublicEvolving, the constructor is not available to
> the users. Only the public and protected methods are considered public API
> in this case. Private / package private methods and fields are still
> internal.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 9:46 AM Hongshun Wang <loserwang1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Becket,
> >
> > If SplitFetcherManager becomes PublicEvolving, that also means
> SplitFetcher
> > > needs to be PublicEvolving, because it is returned by the protected
> > method
> > > SplitFetcherManager.createSplitFetcher().
> >
> >
> >
> > > it looks like there is no need to expose the constructor of
> SplitFetcher
> > > to the end users. Having an interface of SplitFetcher is also fine, but
> > > might not be necessary in this case.
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't know how to make SplitFetcher as PublicEnvolving but not  to
> expose
> > the constructor of SplitFetcher to the end users?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Hongshun Wang
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 7:23 PM Becket Qin <becket....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Hongshun,
> > >
> > > Do we need to expose the constructor of SplitFetcher to the users?
> > Ideally,
> > > users should always get a new fetcher instance by calling
> > > SplitFetcherManager.createSplitFetcher(). Or, they can get an existing
> > > SplitFetcher by looking up in the SplitFetcherManager.fetchers map. I
> > think
> > > this makes sense because a SplitFetcher should always belong to a
> > > SplitFetcherManager. Therefore, it should be created via a
> > > SplitFetcherManager as well. So, it looks like there is no need to
> expose
> > > the constructor of SplitFetcher to the end users.
> > >
> > > Having an interface of SplitFetcher is also fine, but might not be
> > > necessary in this case.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 10:36 AM Hongshun Wang <
> loserwang1...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Becket,
> > > >
> > > > > Additionally, SplitFetcherTask requires
> FutureCompletingBlockingQueue
> > > as
> > > > a constructor parameter, which is not allowed  now.
> > > > Sorry, it was my writing mistake. What I meant is that *SplitFetcher*
> > > > requires FutureCompletingBlockingQueue as a constructor parameter.
> > > > SplitFetcher
> > > > is a class rather than Interface. Therefore, I want to  change
> > > > SplitFetcher to a public Interface and moving its implementation
> > > > details to an implement
> > > > subclass .
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Hongshun Wang
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 6:21 PM Becket Qin <becket....@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Hongshun,
> > > > >
> > > > > SplitFetcher.enqueueTask() returns void, right? SplitFetcherTask is
> > > > already
> > > > > an interface, and we need to make that as a PublicEvolving API as
> > well.
> > > > >
> > > > > So overall, a source developer can potentially do a few things in
> the
> > > > > SplitFetcherManager.
> > > > > 1. for customized logic including split-to-fetcher assignment,
> > > threading
> > > > > model, etc.
> > > > > 2. create their own SplitFetcherTask for the SplitFetcher /
> > SplitReader
> > > > to
> > > > > execute in a coordinated manner.
> > > > >
> > > > > It should be powerful enough for the vast majority of the source
> > > > > implementation, if not all.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Additionally, SplitFetcherTask requires
> FutureCompletingBlockingQueue
> > > > > > as a
> > > > > > constructor parameter, which is not allowed
> > > > > > now.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you referring to FetchTask which implements SplitFetcherTask?
> > That
> > > > > class will remain internal.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 5:23 PM Hongshun Wang <
> > loserwang1...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi, Jiangjie(Becket) ,
> > > > > > Thank you for your advice. I have learned a lot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If SplitFetcherManager becomes PublicEvolving, that also means
> > > > > > > SplitFetcher needs to be PublicEvolving, because it is returned
> > by
> > > > the
> > > > > > > protected method SplitFetcherManager.createSplitFetcher().
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I completely agree with you. However, if SplitFetcher becomes
> > > > > > PublicEvolving, SplitFetcherTask also needs to be PublicEvolving
> > > > > > because it is returned by the public method
> > SplitFetcher#enqueueTask.
> > > > > > Additionally, SplitFetcherTask requires
> > FutureCompletingBlockingQueue
> > > > > > as a
> > > > > > constructor parameter, which is not allowed
> > > > > > now. Therefore, I propose changing SplitFetcher to a public
> > Interface
> > > > > > and moving its implementation details to an implement class
> (e.g.,
> > > > > > SplitFetcherImpl or another suitable name). SplitFetcherImpl will
> > be
> > > > > > marked as internal and managed by SplitFetcherManager,
> > > > > > and put data in the queue.
> > > > > > Subclasses of SplitFetcherManager can only use the SplitFetcher
> > > > > interface,
> > > > > > also ensuring that the current subclasses are not affected.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The current SplitFetcherManager basically looks up
> > > > > > > the SplitT from the fetcher with the split Id, and immediately
> > > passes
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > SplitT back to the fetcher, which is unnecessary.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I inferred that this is because SplitReader#pauseOrResumeSplits
> > > > > > requires SplitT instead of SpiltId.  Perhaps some external source
> > > > > > requires more information to pause. However, SplitReader doesn't
> > > store
> > > > > > all its split data, while SplitFetcherManager saves them.
> > > > > > CC, @Dawid Wysakowicz
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  If not, SplitFetcher.pause() and
> > > > > > > SplitFetcher.resume() can be removed. In fact, they seem no
> > longer
> > > > used
> > > > > > > anywhere.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It seems no use any more. CC, @Arvid Heise
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Hongshun Wang
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 11:42 AM Becket Qin <
> becket....@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Hongshun,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for updating the FLIP. I think that makes sense. A few
> > > > comments
> > > > > > > below:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. If SplitFetcherManager becomes PublicEvolving, that also
> means
> > > > > > > SplitFetcher needs to be PublicEvolving, because it is returned
> > by
> > > > the
> > > > > > > protected method SplitFetcherManager.createSplitFetcher().
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2. When checking the API of the classes to be marked as
> > > > PublicEvolving,
> > > > > > > there might be a few methods' signatures worth some discussion.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For SplitFetcherManager:
> > > > > > > a) Currently removeSplits() methods takes a list of SplitT. I
> am
> > > > > > wondering
> > > > > > > if it should be a list of splitIds. SplitT actually contains
> two
> > > > parts
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > information, the static split Id and some dynamically changing
> > > state
> > > > of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > split (e.g. Kafka consumer offset). The source of truth for the
> > > > dynamic
> > > > > > > state is SourceReaderBase. Currently we are passing in the full
> > > > source
> > > > > > > split with the dynamic state for split removal. But it looks
> like
> > > > only
> > > > > > > split id is needed for the split removal.
> > > > > > > Maybe this is intentional, as sometimes when a SplitReader
> > removes
> > > a
> > > > > > split,
> > > > > > > it also wants to know the dynamic state of the split. If so, we
> > can
> > > > > keep
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > as is. But then the question is why
> > > > > > > SplitFetcherManager.pauseAndResumeSplits() only takes split ids
> > > > instead
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > SplitT. Should we make them consistent?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For SplitFetcher:
> > > > > > > a) The SplitFetcher.pauseOrResumeSplits() method takes
> > collections
> > > of
> > > > > > > SplitT as arguments. We may want to adjust that according to
> what
> > > we
> > > > do
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > the SplitFetcherManager. The current SplitFetcherManager
> > basically
> > > > > looks
> > > > > > up
> > > > > > > the SplitT from the fetcher with the split Id, and immediately
> > > passes
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > SplitT back to the fetcher, which is unnecessary.
> > > > > > > b) After supporting split level pause and resume, do we still
> > need
> > > > > split
> > > > > > > fetcher level pause and resume? If not, SplitFetcher.pause()
> and
> > > > > > > SplitFetcher.resume() can be removed. In fact, they seem no
> > longer
> > > > used
> > > > > > > anywhere.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Other than the above potential API adjustment before we mark
> the
> > > > > classes
> > > > > > > PublicEvolving, the API looks fine to me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think it is good timing for deprecation now. We will mark the
> > > > > impacted
> > > > > > > constructors as deprecated in 1.19, and remove them in release
> of
> > > > 2.0.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 8:26 PM Hongshun Wang <
> > > > loserwang1...@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Devs,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have just modified the content of FLIP-389: Annotate
> > > > > > > > SingleThreadFetcherManager as PublicEvolving[1].
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now this Flip mainly do two thing:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >    1. Annotate SingleThreadFetcherManager as PublicEvolving
> > > > > > > >    2. Remove all public constructors which use
> > > > > > > >    FutureCompletingBlockingQueue. This will make many
> > > constructors
> > > > as
> > > > > > > >    @Depricated.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This may influence many connectors, so I am looking forward
> to
> > > > > hearing
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > you.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > > Hongshun
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=278465498
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 7:57 AM Becket Qin <
> > becket....@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Hongshun,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > However, it will be tricky because SplitFetcherManager
> > > includes
> > > > > <E,
> > > > > > > > > SplitT
> > > > > > > > > > extends SourceSplit>, while FutureCompletingBlockingQueue
> > > > > includes
> > > > > > > <T>.
> > > > > > > > > > This means that SplitFetcherManager would have to be
> > modified
> > > > to
> > > > > > <T,
> > > > > > > E,
> > > > > > > > > > SplitT extends SourceSplit>, which would affect the
> > > > compatibility
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > SplitFetcherManager class. I'm afraid this change will
> > > > influence
> > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > sources.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Although the FutureCompletingBlockingQueue class itself
> has a
> > > > > > template
> > > > > > > > > class <T>. In the SourceReaderBase and SplitFetcherManager,
> > > this
> > > > > <T>
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > actually RecordsWithSplitIds<E>. So it looks like we can
> just
> > > let
> > > > > > > > > SplitFetcherManager.poll() return a RecordsWithSplitIds<E>.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 8:11 PM Hongshun Wang <
> > > > > > loserwang1...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Becket,
> > > > > > > > > >       I agree with you and try to modify this Flip[1],
> > which
> > > > > > include
> > > > > > > > > these
> > > > > > > > > > changes:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >    1. Mark constructor of
> > > SingleThreadMultiplexSourceReaderBase
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > >    @Depricated
> > > > > > > > > >    2.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >    Mark constructor of SourceReaderBase as *@Depricated*
> > and
> > > > > > provide
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > >    constructor without
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >    FutureCompletingBlockingQueue
> > > > > > > > > >    3.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >    Mark constructor of SplitFetcherManager
> > > > > > > > andSingleThreadFetcherManager
> > > > > > > > > >    as  *@Depricated* and provide a new constructor
> > > > > > > > > >    without FutureCompletingBlockingQueue. Mark
> > > > > SplitFetcherManager
> > > > > > > > > >    andSingleThreadFetcherManager as *@PublicEvolving*
> > > > > > > > > >    4.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >    SplitFetcherManager provides  wrapper methods for
> > > > > > > > > >    FutureCompletingBlockingQueue  to replace its usage in
> > > > > > > > > SourceReaderBase.
> > > > > > > > > >    Then we can use FutureCompletingBlockingQueue only in
> > > > > > > > > >    SplitFetcherManager.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > However, it will be tricky because SplitFetcherManager
> > > includes
> > > > > <E,
> > > > > > > > > SplitT
> > > > > > > > > > extends SourceSplit>, while FutureCompletingBlockingQueue
> > > > > includes
> > > > > > > <T>.
> > > > > > > > > > This means that SplitFetcherManager would have to be
> > modified
> > > > to
> > > > > > <T,
> > > > > > > E,
> > > > > > > > > > SplitT extends SourceSplit>, which would affect the
> > > > compatibility
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > SplitFetcherManager class. I'm afraid this change will
> > > > influence
> > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > sources.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > > > > Hongshun
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=278465498
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 10:55 AM Becket Qin <
> > > > > becket....@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Hongshun and Martijn,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the late reply as I was on travel and still
> > > > catching
> > > > > up
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > emails. Please allow me to provide more context.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 1. The original design of SplitFetcherManager and its
> > > > > subclasses
> > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > make them public to the Source developers. The goal is
> to
> > > let
> > > > > us
> > > > > > > take
> > > > > > > > > > care
> > > > > > > > > > > of the threading model, while the Source developers can
> > > just
> > > > > > focus
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > SplitReader implementation. Therefore, I think making
> > > > > > > > > > SplitFetcherManater /
> > > > > > > > > > > SingleThreadFetcherManager public aligns with the
> > original
> > > > > > design.
> > > > > > > > That
> > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > also why these classes are exposed in the constructor
> of
> > > > > > > > > > SourceReaderBase.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 2. For FutureCompletingBlockingQueue, as a hindsight,
> it
> > > > might
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > better
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > not expose it to the Source developers. They are
> unlikely
> > > to
> > > > > use
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > anywhere other than just constructing it. The reason
> that
> > > > > > > > > > > FutureCompletingBlockingQueue is currently exposed in
> the
> > > > > > > > > > SourceReaderBase
> > > > > > > > > > > constructor is because both the SplitFetcherManager and
> > > > > > > > > SourceReaderBase
> > > > > > > > > > > need it. One way to hide the
> > FutureCompletingBlockingQueue
> > > > from
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > public
> > > > > > > > > > > API is to make SplitFetcherManager the only owner class
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > > queue,
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > expose some of its methods via SplitFetcherManager.
> This
> > > way,
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > SourceReaderBase can invoke the methods via
> > > > > SplitFetcherManager.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > believe
> > > > > > > > > > > this also makes the code slightly cleaner.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 12:28 PM Hongshun Wang <
> > > > > > > > > loserwang1...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > @Martijn, I agree with you.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I also have two questions at the beginning:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >    - Why is an Internal class
> > > > > > > > > > > >    exposed as a constructor param of a Public class?
> > > > > > > > > > > >    - Should these classes be exposed as public?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > For the first question,  I noticed that before the
> > > original
> > > > > > > > Jira[1] ,
> > > > > > > > > > > > all these classes missed the annotate , so it was not
> > > > > abnormal
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > FutureCompletingBlockingQueue and
> > > > SingleThreadFetcherManager
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > > > > > constructor params of
> > > > SingleThreadMultiplexSourceReaderBase.
> > > > > > > > > > > >  However,
> > > > > > > > > > > > this jira marked FutureCompletingBlockingQueue and
> > > > > > > > > > > > SingleThreadFetcherManager as Internal, while marked
> > > > > > > > > > > > SingleThreadMultiplexSourceReaderBase as Public.
> It's a
> > > > good
> > > > > > > > choice,
> > > > > > > > > > > > but also forget that FutureCompletingBlockingQueue
> and
> > > > > > > > > > > > SingleThreadFetcherManager have already been  exposed
> > by
> > > > > > > > > > > > SingleThreadMultiplexSourceReaderBase.
> > > > > > > > > > > >  Thus, this problem occurs because we didn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > clearly define the boundaries at the origin design.
> We
> > > > should
> > > > > > pay
> > > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > > > attention to it when creating a new class.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > For the second question, I think at least
> > > > SplitFetcherManager
> > > > > > > > > > > > should be Public. There are few reasons:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >    -  Connector developers want to decide their own
> > > > > > > > > > > >    thread mode. For example, Whether to recycle
> > fetchers
> > > by
> > > > > > > > > overriding
> > > > > > > > > > > >    SplitFetcherManager#maybeShutdownFinishedFetchers
> > > > > > > > > > > >    when idle. Sometimes, developers want
> > > > SplitFetcherManager
> > > > > > > react
> > > > > > > > > as a
> > > > > > > > > > > >    FixedThreadPool, because
> > > > > > > > > > > >    each time a thread is recycled then recreated, the
> > > > context
> > > > > > > > > > > > resources need to be rebuilt. I met a related issue
> in
> > > > flink
> > > > > > > > cdc[2].
> > > > > > > > > > > >    -
> > > > > > > > > > > >    KafkaSourceFetcherManager[3] also  extends
> > > > > > > > > > > > SingleThreadFetcherManager to commitOffsets. But now
> > > kafka
> > > > > > souce
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > not in Flink repository, so it's not allowed any
> more.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > [1]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-22358
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > [2]
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/ververica/flink-cdc-connectors/pull/2571#issuecomment-1797585418
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > [3]
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/flink-connector-kafka/blob/979791c4c71e944c16c51419cf9a84aa1f8fea4c/flink-connector-kafka/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/connector/kafka/source/reader/fetcher/KafkaSourceFetcherManager.java#L52
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hongshun
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 11:46 PM Martijn Visser <
> > > > > > > > > > martijnvis...@apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm looking at the original Jira that introduced
> > these
> > > > > > > stability
> > > > > > > > > > > > > designations [1] and I'm just curious if it was
> > > intended
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > these
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Internal classes would be used directly, or if we
> > just
> > > > > > haven't
> > > > > > > > > > created
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the right abstractions? The reason for asking is
> > > because
> > > > > > moving
> > > > > > > > > > > > > something from Internal to a public designation is
> an
> > > > easy
> > > > > > fix,
> > > > > > > > > but I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > want to make sure that it's also the right fix. If
> we
> > > are
> > > > > > > missing
> > > > > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > > > > > abstractions, then I would rather invest in those.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Martijn
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [1]
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-22358
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 12:40 PM Leonard Xu <
> > > > > > xbjt...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Hongshun for starting this discussion.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 from my side.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > IIRC, @Jiangjie(Becket) also mentioned this in
> > > > > FLINK-31324
> > > > > > > > > > > comment[1].
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leonard
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-31324?focusedCommentId=17696756&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-17696756
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2023年11月8日 下午5:42,Hongshun Wang <
> > > > > loserwang1...@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 写道:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi devs,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to start a discussion on FLIP-389:
> > > > > Annotate
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SingleThreadFetcherManager and
> > > > > > > FutureCompletingBlockingQueue
> > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PublicEvolving.[
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=278465498
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1].
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though the SingleThreadFetcherManager is
> > annotated
> > > as
> > > > > > > > Internal,
> > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > actually
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > acts as some-degree public API, which is widely
> > > used
> > > > in
> > > > > > > many
> > > > > > > > > > > > connector
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > projects: flink-cdc-connector
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/ververica/flink-cdc-connectors/blob/release-2.3.0/flink-connector-mysql-cdc/src/main/java/com/ververica/cdc/connectors/mysql/source/reader/MySqlSourceReader.java#L93
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , flink-connector-mongodb
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/flink-connector-mongodb/blob/main/flink-connector-mongodb/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/connector/mongodb/source/reader/MongoSourceReader.java#L58
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > soon.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreover, even the constructor of
> > > > > > > > > > > > SingleThreadMultiplexSourceReaderBase
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (which is PublicEvolving) includes the params
> of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > SingleThreadFetcherManager
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and FutureCompletingBlockingQueue.  That means
> > that
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SingleThreadFetcherManager  and
> > > > > > > FutureCompletingBlockingQueue
> > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > already
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been exposed to users for a long time and are
> > > widely
> > > > > > used.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Considering that all source implementations are
> > > using
> > > > > > them
> > > > > > > de
> > > > > > > > > > > facto,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > why
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not annotate SingleThreadFetcherManager and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > FutureCompletingBlockingQueue
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as PublicEvolving so that developers will
> modify
> > it
> > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > carefully
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > avoid
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any potential issues.  As shown in
> > FLINK-31324[2],
> > > > > > > > > FLINK-28853[3]
> > > > > > > > > > > > used
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to change the default constructor of
> > > > > > > > > SingleThreadFetcherManager.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > However,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it influenced a lot. Finally, the former
> > > constructor
> > > > > was
> > > > > > > > added
> > > > > > > > > > back
> > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marked as Deprecated。
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In conclusion, the goal of this FLIP is to
> > annotate
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SingleThreadFetcherManager(includes its parent
> > > class)
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FutureCompletingBlockingQueue as
> PublicEvolving.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=278465498
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [2]
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-31324
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [3]
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-28853
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
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> > > > >
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