Hi all,

Sorry for taking so long back here.

Martijn and I have drafted the first version of the updated roadmap,
including the updated feature radar reflecting the current state of
different components.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12BDiVKEsY-f7HI3suO_IxwzCmR04QcVqLarXgyJAb7c/edit

Feel free to leave comments in the thread or the document.
We may miss mentioning something important, so your help in enriching
the content is greatly appreciated.

Best,
Jark & Martijn


On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 at 00:50, Jing Ge <j...@ververica.com.invalid> wrote:

> Hi Jark,
>
> Fair enough. Let's do it like you suggested. Thanks!
>
> Best regards,
> Jing
>
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 6:00 PM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Jing,
> >
> > This thread is for discussing the roadmap for versions 1.18, 2.0, and
> even
> > more.
> > One of the outcomes of this discussion will be an updated version of the
> > current roadmap.
> > Let's work together on refining the roadmap in this thread.
> >
> > Best,
> > Jark
> >
> > On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 at 23:25, Jing Ge <j...@ververica.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jark,
> > >
> > > Thanks for driving it! For point 2, since we are developing 1.18 now,
> > > does it make sense to update the roadmap this time while we are
> releasing
> > > 1.18? This discussion thread will be focusing on the Flink 2.0 roadmap,
> > as
> > > you mentioned previously. WDYT?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Jing
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 3:31 PM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Martijn and I would like to initiate a discussion on the Flink
> roadmap,
> > > > which should cover the project's long-term roadmap and the regular
> > update
> > > > mechanism.
> > > >
> > > > Xintong has already started a discussion about Flink 2.0 planning.
> One
> > of
> > > > the points raised in that discussion is that we should have a
> > high-level
> > > > discussion of the roadmap to present where the project is heading
> > (which
> > > > doesn't necessarily need to block the Flink 2.0 planning). Moreover,
> > the
> > > > roadmap on the Flink website [1] hasn't been updated for half a year,
> > and
> > > > the last update was for the feature radar for the 1.15 release. It
> has
> > > been
> > > > 2 years since the community discussed Flink's overall roadmap.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to raise two topics for discussion:
> > > >
> > > > 1. The new roadmap. This should be an updated version of the current
> > > > roadmap[1].
> > > > 2. A mechanism to regularly discuss and update the roadmap.
> > > >
> > > > To make the first topic discussion more efficient, Martijn and I
> > > volunteer
> > > > to summarize the ongoing big things of different components and
> > present a
> > > > roadmap draft to the community in the next few weeks. This should be
> a
> > > good
> > > > starting point for a more detailed discussion.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding the regular update mechanism, there was a proposal in a
> > thread
> > > > [2] three years ago to make the release manager responsible for
> > updating
> > > > the roadmap. However, it appears that this was not documented as a
> > > release
> > > > management task [3], and the roadmap update wasn't performed for
> > releases
> > > > 1.16 and 1.17.
> > > >
> > > > In my opinion, making release managers responsible for keeping the
> > > roadmap
> > > > up to date is a good idea. Specifically, release managers of release
> X
> > > can
> > > > kick off the roadmap update at the beginning of release X, which can
> > be a
> > > > joint task with collecting a feature list [4]. Additionally, release
> > > > managers of release X-1 can help verify and remove the accomplished
> > items
> > > > from the roadmap and update the feature radar.
> > > >
> > > > What do you think? Do you have other ideas?
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Jark & Martijn
> > > >
> > > > [1]: https://flink.apache.org/roadmap.html
> > > > [2]:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/o0l3cg6yphxwrww0k7215jgtw3yfoybv
> > > > [3]:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Flink+Release+Management
> > > > [4]: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/1.18+Release
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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